McKee Electric Co.

National Labor Relations Board - Board Decisions

Feb 28, 2007

349 N.L.R.B. 463 (N.L.R.B. 2007)

MCKEE ELECTRIC CO.
349 NLRB No. 46
463
Surgener Electric, Inc. d/b/a McKee Electric Com-
pany and International Brotherhood of Electri-
cal Workers, Local 428, AFL–CIO. Case 31–
CA–27113
February 28, 2007
DECISION AND ORDER
BY CHAIRMAN BATTISTA AND MEMBERS LIEBMAN
AND KIRSANOW
This case centers on whether the Respondent unlaw-
fully failed to consider for employment and/or refused to
hire 15 journeyman electricians because of union animus.
For the reasons discussed below, we find violations of
Section 8(a)(3) of the Act as to both issues and order
instatement and backpay for all 15 unlawfully rejected
applicants.1
Background
The Respondent is an electrical contractor in the build-
ing and construction industry. In the fall of 2004,2 the
Respondent was awarded a contract for a large project in
Bakersfield, California. The Respondent employed the
assistance of two outside staffing companies, Staffmark
and Outsource, to assist in hiring electricians for this
project.
The Respondent’s CEO, Lester Surgener, contacted
Staffmark in September 2004. At that time, Surgener
told Staffmark’s branch manager, Jane Corvett, that he
was displeased with the services of Outsource because it
continually sent him applicants who were union mem-
bers and/or unqualified. Surgener requested that Corvett
forward the names of qualified applicants to Respon-
dent’s representative Larry Hansen, who would be mak-
ing the decision on which applicants to hire. In October
2004, Staffmark forwarded the resumes of eight electri-

1 On October 19, 2005, Administrative Law Judge James L. Rose is-
sued the attached decision. The Respondent filed exceptions and a
supporting brief. The General Counsel filed limited exceptions and a
supporting brief, to which the Respondent filed an answering brief.
The National Labor Relations Board has delegated its authority in
this proceeding to a three-member panel.
The Board has considered the decision and the record in light of the
exceptions and briefs and has decided to affirm the judge’s rulings,
findings and conclusions as modified and to adopt the judge’s recom-
mended Order as modified and set forth in full below.
The Respondent has excepted to some of the judge’s credibility find-
ings. The Board’s established policy is not to overrule an administra-
tive law judge’s credibility resolutions unless the clear preponderance
of all the relevant evidence convinces us that they are incorrect. Stan-
dard Dry Wall Products, 91 NLRB 544 (1950), enfd. 188 F.2d 362 (3d
Cir. 1951). We have carefully examined the record and find no basis
for reversing the findings.
The Respondent has requested oral argument. The request is denied
as the record, exceptions, and briefs adequately present the issues and
the positions of the parties.
2 Unless otherwise noted, all dates refer to 2004.
cians to the Respondent. In a subsequent telephone dis-
cussion, either Surgener or Hansen3 told Staffmark’s
staffing specialist, Kelly Richardson, that none of these
individuals would be interviewed “because they were
union people.”
In mid-November, Outsource referred five more appli-
cants—Larry Adams, Jeff Bode, Joe Furino, Mark
Satterfield, and Ronny Jungk—to the Respondent. On
November 15, four of these applicants went as a group to
interview with Hansen; the fifth applicant interviewed
the next day. At their interviews, all five applicants wore
union clothing or paraphernalia and openly acknowl-
edged that they were union organizers. Hansen allowed
all five applicants to fill out employment applications
and interviewed each. Hansen acknowledged during the
interviews that each of the applicants was qualified to do
the work, but informed them that none would be hired
because they were union members and would try to or-
ganize the other employees.
Also on November 15, Outsource4 faxed the resumes
of three other electricians—Kevin Cole, Tony Cook, and
Mike Stein—to the Respondent. There is no record evi-
dence that any of the resumes indicated union affiliation.5
The Respondent did not hire or interview any of the
three.
On November 19, Union Representative Larry Adams
gave Staffmark representative, Richardson, the names
and resumes of seven electricians, which Richardson, in
turn, forwarded to the Respondent.6 Each resume indi-
cated that the individual was a union organizer and/or
was seeking a position “as a Journeyman Electrician and
to educate and organize employees into the I.B.E.W.”
On December 21, when Adams telephoned Richardson to
follow up, Richardson told Adams that the “client” (i.e.,
the Respondent) would not hire union members.7 About
that same time, Richardson placed an employment ad to

3 Although she was unsure with whom she spoke specifically,
Richardson’s credited testimony is that this statement was made either
by Surgener or by Hansen.
4 The judge inadvertently identified the company that forwarded the
resumes as Staffmark.
5 The resumes of Cole and Stein, which were entered into evidence,
contain no indication of union status. The General Counsel sought to
introduce into evidence a copy of Cook’s resume, which indicated that
he was employed by the Union until October 2004. The judge rejected
the exhibit for lack of foundation, however, because there was no evi-
dence that this resume was in fact the one sent to the Respondent. The
Respondent does not claim that it never received Cook’s resume.
6 The seven resumes were for Brett Garcia, Roberto Fajardo, Ray-
mond MacNeill, Maria Ordaz, Jess Saucedo, Frank Soares, and An-
thony Urzanqui.
7 Although Richardson did not identify the name of the client to Ad-
ams, she testified that the client she was referring to was the Respon-
dent.
DECISIONS OF THE NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD464
obtain additional applicants for the Respondent. The ad
specifically stated that the job was “nonunion only.”
On December 22, Adams called Staffmark Manager
Corvett to complain about the “nonunion” requirement
posted in the ad. Following her discussion with Adams,
Corvett telephoned Surgener and told him that Staffmark
could only recruit based on employees’ qualifications
and not on their nonunion status. At Surgener’s request,
Corvett faxed over the seven resumes previously sent by
Richardson in November. The Respondent did not inter-
view or offer employment to any of the seven individuals
whose resumes were sent over.
Violations of Section 8(a)(3)
We affirm the judge’s finding, for the reasons stated
by the judge, that the Respondent violated Section
8(a)(3) of the Act by unlawfully refusing to consider the
15-named individuals for employment because of their
union membership. The General Counsel has excepted
to the judge’s failure to find that the Respondent also
violated Section 8(a)(3) by refusing to hire these 15 indi-
viduals. We find merit to the General Counsel’s excep-
tion for the following reasons.
In refusal to hire cases, “the General Counsel must es-
tablish that (1) the Respondent was hiring, or had con-
crete plans to hire, at the time of the alleged unlawful
conduct; (2) the applicants had experience and training
relevant to the announced or generally known require-
ments of the positions for hire, or in the alternative, that
the employer has not adhered uniformly to such require-
ments, or that the requirements were themselves pretex-
tual or were applied as a pretext for discrimination; and
(3) antiunion animus contributed to the decision not to
hire the applicants. . . . Once the General Counsel has
met this burden, the employer must show that it would
have made the same hiring decisions even absent the
applicants’ union affiliation.” Jesco, Inc., 347 NLRB
903, 906 (2006) (citing FES, 331 NLRB 9, 12 (2000),
affd. 301 F.3d 83 (3d Cir. 2002)).
The first two criteria are not in issue, since the Re-
spondent acknowledges that it was hiring journeymen
electricians throughout the relevant time period8 and does
not dispute that each of the applicants had experience and
training relevant to the open positions. The third factor,
antiunion animus, is established by the credited evidence
that both CEO Lester Surgener and Larry Hansen, the
person tasked with reviewing prospective applicants for
Respondent, openly stated that the Respondent would not
hire union members.

8 The Respondent hired approximately 26 journeyman electricians
between November 15 and December 22, and another 34 electricians
after that date.
The Respondent asserts that we cannot find unlawful
motivation with respect to its failure to hire two of the
applicants, Tony Cook and Kevin Cole, because their
resumes did not indicate any union affiliation. It is well
established, however, that even where an employer is not
aware of an individual’s actual union status, discrimina-
tion aimed at “suspected” union activists is unlawful.
See, e.g., Niblock Excavating, Inc., 337 NLRB 53, 68–69
(2001) (finding unlawful motivation where father of ap-
plicant Taylor was openly prounion, based on employer’s
suspicion that Taylor might also support union); WXGI,
Inc. v. NLRB, 243 F.3d 833, 843 (4th Cir. 2001) (where
two employees were abruptly terminated within days of
other employees’ open organizing efforts, the fact that
they “were not as involved in the unionizing effort is of
little consequence . . . the four discriminatees were
viewed as a clique and, in any event, the Board need not
show that the employer knew of any particular em-
ployee’s union involvement to show that the employer
acted out of union animus”). The resumes of both Cook
and Cole were sent to the Respondent by Outsource, the
same staffing company that Surgener complained kept
sending him “union applicants.” Moreover, both re-
sumes were faxed to the Respondent the same day that
four other applicants—also referred by Outsource—were
told by Hansen that they would not be hired because of
their union affiliation. In these circumstances, we find it
reasonable to conclude that Cook and Cole were com-
munally “swept into the unlawful group” refusal to hire
union supporters by association, if not otherwise. Cf.
City Stationery, Inc., 340 NLRB 523, 524 (2003) (where
individuals are “swept into the unlawful group discharge
. . . proof of the Respondent’s knowledge of their actual,
individual conduct is not necessary for us to find their
discharges unlawful as well”).9

9 Our dissenting colleague points out that Outsource also sent non-
union applicants to the Respondent and that the Respondent did not
make “a blanket decision to refuse to hire persons simply because they
are referred by Outsource.” Neither fact, however, negates the strong
inference of discrimination here, based on the particular circumstances
surrounding the referral and rejection of Cook and Cole. It may be
true, as the dissent suggests, that the Respondent neither believed that
every applicant referred by Outsource was affiliated with the Union,
nor decided to avoid the risk of hiring union applicants by rejecting all
applicants referred by Outsource. But the evidence clearly demon-
strates the Respondent’s antiunion animus and its corresponding con-
cern about Outsource-referred applicants. The timing of the refusal to
hire Cook and Cole in relation to the Respondent’s avowedly discrimi-
natory rejection of union applicants also referred by Outsource per-
suades us that the Respondent’s rejection of Cook and Cole was simi-
larly motivated by antiunion animus—whether it knew that Cook and
Cole were affiliated with the Union, suspected that they were, or simply
did not want to take any chances.
We are not persuaded by the Respondent’s further argument that be-
cause it hired some individual applicants who were union members, it
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Under FES, the burden therefore shifted to the Re-
spondent to show that it would not have hired these ap-
plicants even in the absence of their union affiliation.
FES, supra, 331 NLRB at 12. We agree with the judge
that the Respondent did not meet its burden.
With respect to the five applicants who were rejected
during their interviews with Hansen, the Respondent
asserts that it would not have hired Larry Adams because
he engaged in misconduct during an earlier organizing
drive and that it was justified in not hiring the other four
individuals because they named Adams as a reference on
their application forms. Hansen’s contemporaneous ad-
mission that none of these five would be hired solely
based on their union status, however, is fatal to this post-
hoc justification. Thus, an asserted justification fails
where “the Respondent did not in fact rely on [it] when it
rejected the discriminatees.” JESCO, Inc., above at 907–
908 (“The Respondent cannot rebut the General Coun-
sel’s initial showing of discriminatory motivation with a
pretextual explanation.”). Accord: Commercial Erectors,
Inc., 342 NLRB 940, 944 (2004); Golden State Foods
Corp., 340 NLRB 382, 385 (2003). Additionally, the
judge found that Adams did not engage in the miscon-
duct of which he was accused. Cf. Union Square Theatre
Management, 326 NLRB 70, 78 (1998) (defense fails
where evidence did not support claim that employee took
or copied confidential document to give to the union).10

cannot be found to have acted from union animus. There is no evi-
dence that the Respondent knew of or suspected the union status of
these individuals when it hired them. In any event, “a discriminatory
motive, otherwise established, is not disproved by an employer’s proof
that it did not weed out all union adherents.” Nachman Corp. v. NLRB,
337 F.2d 421, 424 (7th Cir. 1964). Accord: WXGI, Inc. v. NLRB, supra,
243 F.3d at 844; Clark & Wilkins Industries, Inc. v. NLRB, 887 F.2d
308, 316 fn. 19 (D.C. Cir. 1989), cert. denied 495 U.S. 934 (1990);
NLRB v. Centra, Inc., 954 F.2d 366, 374 (6th Cir. 1992).
10 According to the Respondent, Adams attempted to get one of its
employees to steal personnel files during a 2003 organizing drive.
Although the Respondent filed criminal charges against Adams, the
sheriff’s department declined to act on the charges because there was
no evidence that any personnel files were taken. The Respondent also
relies on a statement given in 2003 by the employee in question. At
trial, however, the employee recanted his earlier statement, asserting
that it was procured under the duress of potential job loss. The credited
testimony indicates that Adams never asked for copies of the personnel
files, but only for the names and addresses of employees, without any
direction as to how that information would be obtained. The Respon-
dent does not claim that such a request would have constituted miscon-
duct justifying a failure to hire. In any event, the evidence indicates
that the employee whom Adams asked to retrieve the information
would have had access to it “in the ‘normal course of work activity and
association.’” Union Square Theatre Management, 326 NLRB at 78
(quoting Ridgely Mfg. Co., 207 NLRB 193, 196–197 (1973), enfd. 510
F.2d 185 (D.C. Cir 1975)). Absent circumstances not present here,
both the gathering of that information at the request of a union agent
and any disclosure to that agent accordingly fall within Sec. 7 protected
conduct. Ridgely Mfg. Co., 207 NLRB at 196–197; New Process Co.,
It follows that if the Respondent’s purported justification
fails as to Adams, it also fails with respect to the four
applicants who listed Adams as a reference.
The remaining justifications are similarly deficient.
For the reasons stated by the judge, we agree that the
Respondent failed to establish that filed application
forms and interviews were a prerequisite to consideration
for employment.11 Furthermore, having summarily re-
jected the applicants on the basis of their union status
without interviewing them or giving them the opportu-
nity to file applications, the Respondent cannot now be
heard to complain about the lack of completed employ-
ment applications. Jesco, Inc., supra at 906.
We also reject as pretext the Respondent’s claim that it
did not hire eight of the applicants who were referred
through Outsource because of exorbitant contract costs.
In addition to relying on the reasons given by the judge,
we find it telling that the Respondent never terminated its
relationship with Outsource and actually signed a staff-
ing agreement with the firm on November 23, several
days after it unlawfully rejected all eight Outsource ap-
plicants.
AMENDED REMEDY
Both the General Counsel and the Respondent filed
exceptions to the judge’s remedy and recommended Or-
der.12 The General Counsel excepts to the judge’s failure
to order instatement and backpay for two discriminatees
who admitted falsifying information on their resumes
and/or employment applications. The Respondent ex-
cepts to the judge’s failure to take into consideration that
the duration of the work project for which it was hiring
in the fall of 2004 may affect the ultimate backpay and
instatement award. We find merit to both exceptions.13

290 NLRB 704, 734 (1988); Gray Flooring, 212 NLRB 668, 669
(1974).
11 We further rely on Surgener’s admission that on other occasions
he had asked the staffing companies to follow up with an applicant
solely on the basis of a resume.
12 In addition to the specific modifications set forth in the text below,
we also amend the remedy section of the judge’s decision to provide
that interest on the discriminatees’ make-whole awards is to be com-
puted as in New Horizons for the Retarded, 283 NLRB 1173 (1987).
We shall also modify the judge’s recommended Order to include a
records-expunction provision and the customary remedial language and
time limits set forth in our decision in Indian Hills Care Center, 321
NLRB 144 (1996), and in accordance with Excel Container, Inc., 325
NLRB 17 (1997).
13 We find no merit to the Respondent’s other exception that the four
discriminatees who tape recorded their employment interviews thereby
forfeited their rights to remedial relief. We find the claim that such
tape recordings violate state criminal laws undercut by the Respon-
dent’s failure to file criminal charges or to cite any precedent for the
proposition that a California court would find the tape recordings a
violation of state privacy laws in the circumstances present here. Cf.
Braun Electric Co., 324 NLRB 1, 3 fn. 3 (1997) (rejecting argument
DECISIONS OF THE NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD466
With respect to the General Counsel’s exception, the
judge found that two of the discriminatees, Ronny Jungk
and Mike Stein, purposely falsified information regard-
ing their employment history in order to obtain jobs with
the Respondent. The Respondent’s employment applica-
tion forms specifically state that “[f]alsification of any
part of the employment application will result in dis-
qualification of an individual for employment. If a new
hire is found to have completed an application purposely
with the intention of being hired based on erroneous in-
formation or submitted any false document, he/she will
be terminated from employment.” The record does not
establish, however, at what point the Respondent became
aware of Jungk’s and Stein’s misrepresentations or
whether the Respondent consistently enforced its policy
concerning falsification of employment applications.
Accordingly, we will order both instatement and backpay
for Jungk and Stein, leaving it to the compliance stage to
determine to what, if any, extent these remedies should
be limited. See ADS Electric Co., 339 NLRB 1020, 1020
fn. 3 (2003), and cases cited therein.
We also leave to compliance the determination of
whether the time-limited nature of the Bakersfield project
would have resulted in the discriminatees being laid off
for lack of work at some point in time, thereby rendering
instatement inappropriate and tolling backpay. Under
extant Board law, determination of this factual issue ap-
propriately is left to the compliance stage. Dean General
Contractors, 285 NLRB 573, 573 (1987).14
ORDER
The National Labor Relations Board orders that that
the Respondent, Surgener Electric, Inc. d/b/a McKee
Electric Company, Bakersfield, California, its officers,
agents, successors, and assigns, shall
1. Cease and desist from

that videotaping of employment application efforts by union salts not
protected because employer “has not shown that videotaping was ille-
gal under California law”). We decline to make an independent inter-
pretation regarding the applicability of the state criminal statute in the
present circumstances without the benefit of any prior state interpreta-
tion or ruling on the matter. In rejecting the Respondent’s argument,
however, we disavow the judge’s statement that the Board in Braun
Electric, supra, held such taping to be protected activity. The Board
expressly declined to rule on that issue. 324 NLRB at 3 fn. 4.
14 As stated in Construction Products, 346 NLRB 640, 640 fn. 2
(2006), and Cheney Construction, 344 NLRB 238 (2005), Chairman
Battista recognizes that Dean General represents current Board law but
he has concerns as to whether that case was correctly decided. Member
Kirsanow has similar concerns. Accordingly, although the Chairman
and Member Kirsanow agree that the issue of how long the discrimina-
tees would have remained employees of the Respondent if they had
properly been hired is to be left to compliance, they also leave to com-
pliance the related issue of which party bears the burden of proof on
this matter. The resolution of these issues will determine the amount of
backpay and whether instatement continues to be appropriate.
(a) Failing and refusing to hire job applicants because
of their membership in, or affiliation with, the Union or
any other labor organization.
(b) Refusing to consider for employment job appli-
cants because of their membership in, or affiliation with,
the Union or any other labor organization.
(c) In any other manner interfering with, restraining, or
coercing employees in the exercise of the rights guaran-
teed them by Section 7 of the Act.
2. Take the following affirmative action necessary to
effectuate the policies of the Act.
(a) Within 14 days from the date of this Order, offer
employment to Larry Adams, Jeff Bode, Joe Furino,
Mark Satterfield, Kevin Cole, Tony Cook, Brett Garcia,
Robert Fajardo, Ronnie Jungk, Raymond MacNeil,
Maria Ordaz, Jess Saucedo, Mike Stein, Frank Soares,
and Anthony Urzanqui in the positions for which they
applied or, if such positions no longer exist, in substan-
tially equivalent positions, without prejudice to their sen-
iority or any other rights and privileges they would have
enjoyed if they had been hired, if necessary terminating
the service of employees hired in their stead.
(b) Make whole all of those individuals identified in
subparagraph (a) for any loss of earnings and other bene-
fits suffered as a result of the discrimination against
them, in the manner set forth in the remedy section of the
judge’s decision, as modified herein.
(c) Within 14 days from the date of this Order, remove
from its files any reference to the unlawful refusal to hire
or to consider for employment Larry Adams, Jeff Bode,
Joe Furino, Mark Satterfield, Kevin Cole, Tony Cook,
Brett Garcia, Robert Fajardo, Ronnie Jungk, Raymond
MacNeil, Maria Ordaz, Jess Saucedo, Mike Stein, Frank
Soares, and Anthony Urzanqui and, within 3 days there-
after, notify them in writing that this has been done and
that the unlawful conduct of the Respondent will not be
used against them in any way.
(d) Preserve and, within 14 days of a request or such
additional time as the Regional Director may allow for
good cause shown, provide at a reasonable place desig-
nated by the Board or its agents, all payroll records, so-
cial security payment records, timecards, personnel re-
cords and reports, and all other records, including an
electronic copy of such records if stored in electronic
form, necessary to analyze the amount of backpay due
under the terms of this Order.
(e) Within 14 days after service by the Region, post at
its facility in Bakersfield, California, copies of the at-
tached notice marked “Appendix.”15 Copies of the no-

15 If this Order is enforced by a judgment of a United States court of
appeals, the words in the notice reading “Posted by Order of the Na-
tional Labor Relations Board” shall read “Posted Pursuant to a Judg-
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tice, on forms provided by the Regional Director for Re-
gion 31, after being signed by the Respondent’s author-
ized representative, shall be posted by the Respondent
and maintained for 60 consecutive days in conspicuous
places including all places where notices to employees
are customarily posted. Reasonable steps shall be taken
by the Respondent to ensure that the notices are not al-
tered, defaced, or covered by any other material. In the
event that, during the pendency of these proceedings, the
Respondent has gone out of business or closed the facil-
ity involved in these proceedings, the Respondent shall
duplicate and mail, at its own expense, a copy of the no-
tice to all current employees and former employees em-
ployed by the Respondent at any time since October
2004.
(f) Within 21 days after service by the Region, file
with the Regional Director a sworn certification of a re-
sponsible official on a form provided by the Region at-
testing to the steps that the Respondent has taken to
comply.
CHAIRMAN BATTISTA, dissenting in part.
I do not agree that the General Counsel has shown a
violation as to Cook and Cole. The evidence does not
establish that the Respondent knew that Cook and Cole
were union adherents. The majority’s reasoning to avoid
this problem does not withstand scrutiny. Indeed, the
majority’s reasoning is a “hodge-podge” of different
theories, none of which is supported by the evidence.
The majority first asserts that the Respondent “sus-
pected” that Cook and Cole were union adherents. The
majority subsequently asserts that the Respondent dis-
criminated against others, and that Cook and Cole got
swept in with them.
The first theory is based on the fact that the Respon-
dent complained that Outsource kept sending it “union
applicants.” However, this is not the same as saying that
Outsource sent only “union applicants.” Indeed, General
Counsel Exhibit 35 shows that Outsource also sent non-
union applicants. Thus, the Respondent could not infer,
from the Outsource referral, that Cook and Cole were
union adherents.
The second theory is based on cases where a respon-
dent makes a discriminatory decision (e.g. to lay off a
department) because of union activity within that de-
partment. In such cases, everyone affected by the deci-
sion (whether a union adherent or not) is treated as a dis-
criminatee. By contrast, the General Counsel does not
here assert, and the evidence does not show, a blanket
decision to refuse to hire persons simply because they are

ment of the United States Court of Appeals Enforcing an Order of the
National Labor Relations Board.”
referred by Outsource. Indeed, the Respondent contin-
ued its relationship with Outsource even after the dis-
criminatory conduct involved herein.
APPENDIX
NOTICE TO EMPLOYEES
POSTED BY ORDER OF THE
NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD
An Agency of the United States Government
The National Labor Relations Board has found that we vio-
lated Federal labor law and has ordered us to post and obey
this notice.
FEDERAL LAW GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO
Form, join, or assist a union
Choose representatives to bargain with us on
your behalf
Act together with other employees for your bene-
fit and protection
Choose not to engage in any of these protected
activities.
WE WILL NOT refuse to hire or consider for employ-
ment job applicants because of their membership in, or
affiliation with, the International Brotherhood of Electri-
cal Workers, Local 428, AFL–CIO or any other labor
organization.
WE WILL NOT in any other manner interfere with, re-
strain, or coerce you in the exercise of the rights listed
above.
WE WILL, within 14 days from the date of the Board’s
Order, offer immediate full employment to Larry Adams,
Jeff Bode, Joe Furino, Mark Satterfield, Kevin Cole,
Tony Cook, Brett Garcia, Robert Fajardo, Ronnie Jungk,
Raymond MacNeil, Maria Ordaz, Jess Saucedo, Mike
Stein, Frank Soares, and Anthony Urzanqui in electrician
positions for which they applied or, if such positions no
longer exist, to substantially equivalent positions, with-
out prejudice to their seniority or other rights or privi-
leges that they would have enjoyed had they been hired.
WE WILL make the named individuals whole for any
loss of earnings and benefits that they have suffered as a
result of our unlawful refusal to hire them, less any net
interim earnings, plus interest.
WE WILL, within 14 days from the date of the Board’s
Order, remove from our files any and all references to the
unlawful refusal to hire or to consider for employment
the named individuals and WE WILL, within 3 days there-
after, notify them in writing that this has been done and
that our unlawful refusal to hire them will not be used
against them in any way.
DECISIONS OF THE NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD468
SURGENER ELECTRIC, INC. D/B/A MCKEE
ELECTRIC COMPANY
Rodolfo L. Fong-Sandoval, Esq., for the General Counsel.
Howard A. Sagaser, Esq., of Fresno, California, for the Re-
spondent.
Larry Adams, Organizer, of Bakersfield California, for the
Charging Party.
DECISION
STATEMENT OF THE CASE
JAMES L. ROSE, Administrative Law Judge. This matter was
tried before me on July 11, 12, and 13, 2005, on the General
Counsel’s complaint which alleges that in violation of Section
8(a)(3) of the National Labor Relations Act (the Act), the Re-
spondent refused to consider for employment 15 qualified indi-
viduals because of their known affiliation with the Charging
Party.
The Respondent generally denied the substantive allegations
in the complaint, and affirmatively contends, without offering
factual support, certain constitutional violations and the running
of the 10(b) limitation period. The Respondent also contends it
had valid reasons for not considering Larry Adams or anyone
whom he recommended, all of which will be discussed below.
On the record as a whole, including my observation of the
witness, briefs and arguments of counsel, I make the following
FINDINGS OF FACT
I. JURISDICTION
The Respondent is a California corporation with an office
and place of business in Bakersfield, California, from which it
has been engaged in the building and construction industry as
an electrical contractor. In the course and conduct of this busi-
ness, it annually derives gross revenues in excess of $500,000
and receives directly from points outside the State of Califor-
nia, goods, products, and materials valued in excess of $2000.
The Respondent admits, and I conclude, that it is an employer
engaged in interstate commerce within the meaning of Section
2(2), (6), and (7) of the Act.
II. THE LABOR ORGANIZATION INVOLVED
The Charging Party, Local No. 428, International Brother-
hood of Electrical Workers, AFL–CIO (the Union), is admitted
to be, and I find is, a labor organization within the meaning of
Section 2(5) of the Act.
III. THE ALLEGED UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICES
A. The Facts in Brief
For many years, various locals of the IBEW have sought to
organize employees by having current members (sometimes
employees of other companies, sometimes employees of the
local itself) apply for job openings. This process is often re-
ferred to as “salting” and is often resisted by the targeted em-
ployer, usually on grounds that the applicants are not bona fide
employees seeking work. This is one such case, but, as always,
has its own unique facts.
In late 2004,1 in order to staff a large project in Bakersfield,
the Respondent sought the services of a temporary employment
agency called Outsource. Outsource in fact referred prospec-
tive employees to the Respondent, and specifically on Novem-
ber 15, referred five applicants, including union organizer Larry
Adams.
However, the Respondent’s CEO (or general manager), Les-
ter Surgener, was apparently unhappy with Outsource and con-
tacted another temp agency called Staffmark.2 On September
27, Surgener met with Staffmark Branch Manager Jane Morgan
Corvett. According to Corvett, whose testimony on all material
issues I credit.3 Surgener told her “he was displeased with a
company called Outsourcing and they were currently sending
him resumes and what-not and so he was looking to partner
with another staffing service because the people that the other
service was sending him were not qualified, were union appli-
cants, and also, he did not care for their contact at that service
any longer.”
Corvett testified that the general process her company uses
when given an order for employees is to search her database,
then submit ads in the local and perhaps distant newspapers
(such as Las Vegas in this case) and to post the openings on
CalJOBS. When she gets responses, she will fax the appli-
cant’s resume to her client to see if the client is interested, and
if so she will call the applicant in for a drug and safety test and
will then line up an interview for the applicant with her client.
Thus Surgener told her in the September 27 meeting “when I
had a qualified applicant to get it over to Larry (Hansen) and
Larry was the person who would interview and make the deci-
sion.”
Kelly Lee Richardson started with Staffmark on October 18.
In response to the first CalJOBS ad, Staffmark received eight
resumes which she faxed to the Respondent on or about No-
vember 19. She followed up with a call to either Larry or Les-
ter (she was unable to recall which, but was “positive it was one
of the two”) and “I was told at that time that they would not
interview any of these people because they were union employ-
ees.”
After this conversation, Richardson placed a second Cal-
JOBS ad which stated, under job duties, “NonUnion only.” On
December 22, Adams called Corvett to complain about the non-
union requirement in the CalJOBS ad. She in turn called Sur-
gener telling him “that it was my understanding that he had
specified to the girls in the office who, in turn, were recruiting

1 All dates are in 2004, unless otherwise indicated.
2 Counsel for the Respondent argues that documents indicate that
Staffmark was retained before Outsource, a fact assertion I find irrele-
vant and therefore unnecessary to resolve.
3 Corvett, and fellow Staffmark employee, Kelly Lee Richardson,
have no stake in the outcome of this matter and no longer have any kind
of a relationship with any of the parties—employers or employees.
Further, they both gave believable accounts of their conversations with
the principals of the Respondent. Finally, observing their relative de-
meanor, I find Corvett and Richardson credible and Surgener unworthy
of belief. I credit them generally, and specifically, where there is a
direct dispute between what they testified Surgener said in a particular
conversation and what he testified he said, I discredit him and credit
them.
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based on his nonunion requirement and that we could not do
that and so we have to recruit for him off of qualifications, and
he then said that he refused union applicants, and I said, well,
then I cannot do business that way and then he said, well, I’ll
speak with my attorney and have him call you, which I never
received a phone call.”
Via Outsource, on November 15 and 16, Adams, Jeff Bode,
Joe Furino, Mark Satterfield, and Ronny Jungk, were inter-
viewed by Hansen. During these interviews, each of which was
surreptitiously recorded by the applicants, Hansen said that the
applicant was well qualified and would be hired but for the fact
he was a union member and would try to organize other em-
ployees. The essence of Hansen’s statements to these appli-
cants was not denied by him. I believe that he specifically told
the prospective employees that they are qualified (which is
undenied by the Respondent) and that they would be hired but
for their union affiliation—that for them to be hired and attempt
to organize other employees would be a problem that the Re-
spondent “is going to fight you tooth and nail.” (Transcript of
Adams’ interview with Hansen.)
On November 15, Richardson faxed to the Respondent the
resumes of Kevin Cole, Tony Cook, Mike Stein, and on No-
vember 19, faxed the resumes of Brett Garcia, Robert Fajardo,
Raymond Mac Neil, Maria Ordaz, Jess Saucedo, Frank Soares,
and Anthony Urzanqui. These resumes were refaxed by Cor-
vett on December 22, the Respondent having claimed that it
had not received them earlier. Indeed, at the hearing counsel
seemed to represent that the Respondent never received these
resumes—that “Respondent didn’t have them.” All these re-
sumes indicated the applicant had union affiliation. None were
interviewed by the Respondent.
During the period November/December, employees whose
resumes did not indicate union affiliation were hired—two
through Outsource and two through Staffmark.
B. Analysis and Concluding Findings
1. The violation of Section 8(a)(3)
Unquestionably the Respondent had many openings for
qualified electricians during the period November 2004/January
2005, and in fact hired 60. Also unquestionably, the 15 indi-
viduals listed in the complaint were qualified and that the re-
sume of each, submitted to the Respondent by Outsource or
Staffmark, stated the individual’s union affiliation. None of the
15 was hired, whereas at least four individuals whose resumes
did not state union affiliation were hired during this period. I
find that Surgener told a Staffmark employee that the Respon-
dent would not interview those whose resumes showed union
affiliation and he told the Staffmark branch manager that “he
refused union applicants.” The Respondent’s predisposition to
deny employment to union members was confirmed during
Hansen’s interviews of Adams, et al.
On these facts it is abundantly clear that the Respondent re-
fused to consider for employment individuals who had demon-
strated union membership and it thereby violated Section
8(a)(3) of the Act. E.g., FES, 331 NLRB 9 (2000), affd. 301
F.3d 83 (3d Cir. 2002).
2. The Respondent’s defenses
Counsel for the Respondent offered several defenses, none of
which I find meritorious either factually or legally. They will
be considered seriatim as they appear in his brief.
Counsel contends that the five individuals interviewed by
Hansen tape recorded the interviews without Hansen’s consent
and thereby violated a privacy act section in the California
Penal Code, sec. 630–637.6. He then relies on Surgener’s tes-
timony that if this criminal activity had been known, they
would not have been hired or would have been discharged.
This assertion is self-serving and after the fact. Nor would it
make these employees unemployable for purposes of the rem-
edy here. The Board has held that taping of job interviews is
protected activity and, therefore, could not be a basis for refus-
ing to hire an applicant. Braun Electric Co., 324 NLRB 1
(1997).
Further, as quoted by counsel, this section covers recordings
“without the consent of all parties to a confidential communica-
tion.” There is simply no basis to conclude that an employment
interview could be considered a “confidential communica-
tion.”4 These were not “personal” conversations Hansen was
having with Adams and the others. He was interviewing them
on behalf of his employer for purposes of potential employ-
ment. Counsel cited no California case holding such interviews
to be “confidential communications.”
The second defense as to the five who were interviewed be-
gins with an allegation that some 20 months prior to the events
here Adams attempted “to get an employee of McKee Electric
to steal documents and/or information from McKee’s personnel
files.” For this reason, Surgener testified, he would never hire
Adams or anyone whom Adams recommended, meaning, for
purposes of this case, the other four.
This situation arose from an apparent attempt by Adams in
January 2003, to organize the Respondent’s employees during
which he asked Rodney York to get him the names and ad-
dresses of employees, if he could do so without getting into
trouble. York was an electrician who at the time was on dis-
ability and was working in the office. Surgener procured from
York a statement to the effect that Adams had asked him to
steal personal files and then Surgener called in the Sheriff’s
Department. There was no serious investigation and the matter
was dropped.
York was called as a witness by the Respondent. While ad-
mitting he wrote the statement at Surgener’s request (being
afraid for his job) he denied that in fact Adams asked him to get
anything from employees’ personal files. Adams also denied
the substance of York’s earlier statement. I find that Adams
did not solicit an employee to engage in criminal activity, but
was engaged activity protected by the Act. It appears that Sur-
gener was using his position in an effort to build a case against
a known union organizer as early as 2003. Since, as noted
above, I do not generally believe Surgener, I conclude that his

4 Transcripts of these recordings were offered into evidence and re-
jected (except for that of Adams to which there was no objection), not
because of the alleged violation of the California Penal Code but be-
cause the General Counsel did not give the Respondent a reasonable
amount of time to verify their authenticity.
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assertion is bogus and not a legitimate reason to refuse em-
ployment to Adams or those who put Adams as a reference on
their resumes.
By way of an additional defense, because these five were re-
ferred by Outsource, and because Outsource was too expensive,
they would not have been hired. I reject this assertion based on
the essentially uncontroverted testimony that Hansen told them
they would not be hired because of their union affiliation.
Hansen is the individual who takes applications and inter-
views prospective employees. He testified that Surgener does
all the hiring, however, Hansen clearly has the authority to
effectively recommend hiring and does so. On this basis he is
clearly a supervisor and, for purposes of hiring employees at
least, an agent of the Respondent. As such his statements bind
the Respondent and show a predisposition by the Respondent
not to hire union members.
As to the remaining 10, the Respondent argues that they
never filed applications and therefore could not have not been
considered. This argument is based on the assertion that the
Respondent’s inviolate hiring procedure required all prospec-
tive employees to file applications with the Respondent at its
office. None of the 10 did so. I reject this argument.
Whatever the Respondent’s prior hiring practice, for the pur-
pose of staffing the Bakersfield job the Respondent retained
employment services and therefore clearly held its standard
practice in abeyance. On retaining Staffmark, the hiring proce-
dure was for Staffmark to find prospective employees and then
fax their resumes to the Respondent. If the Respondent stated
an interest in such a prospect, then Staffmark would screen and
test the prospect, and if this was satisfactory, would then ar-
range for an interview with the Respondent. The reason none
of the 10 filed an application with the Respondent or came in
for an interview was because the Respondent stopped the proc-
ess. Staffmark was told that none of these 10 would be consid-
ered because of their union affiliation. The Respondent’s tech-
nical argument is without merit and its refusal to further con-
sider the 10 was violative of Section 8(a)(3).
THE REMEDY
Having found that the Respondent refused to consider for
employment 15 qualified applicants because of their member-
ship in the Union, I shall recommend that the Respondent be
ordered to cease and desist such activity and to offer employ-
ment to Larry Adams, Jeff Bode, Joe Furino, Mark Satterfield,
Kevin Cole, and Tony Cook, make them whole for any losses
which they may have suffered as a result of the discrimination
against them including backpay commencing on November 15,
2004, and Brett Garcia, Robert Fajardo, Raymond MacNeil,
Maria Ordaz, Jess Saucedo, Frank Soares, and Anthony Urzan-
qui with backpay commencing on November 19, 2004, until the
date they are hired or reject employment pursuant to the for-
mula set forth in F. W. Woolworth, 90 NLRB 252 (1950), with
interest.
Although some applications contained minor errors and/or
were out of date, I do not consider these facts fatal to this rem-
edy. However, material information on the applications of
Ronny Jungk and Mike Stein was false. Jungk had never
worked for any of the companies listed as previous employers
and Stein had never worked for the most recent employer he
listed. While this false information was not a factor in the Re-
spondent’s refusal to consider them, I conclude such goes be-
yond the trivial and as a matter of good policy, they should not
be given an offer of employment or backpay. It was their
choice to falsify their resumes.
[Recommended Order omitted from publication.]