American Express Reservations, Inc.Download PDFNational Labor Relations Board - Board DecisionsApr 5, 1974209 N.L.R.B. 1105 (N.L.R.B. 1974) Copy Citation AMERICAN EXPRESS RESERVATIONS, INC. American Express Reservations , Inc. and Highway and Local Motor Freight Employees Local Union No. 667, affiliated with the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, Chauffeurs , Warehousemen and Helpers of America . Case 26-CA-4768 April 5, 1974 DECISION AND ORDER BY MEMBERS FANNING, KENNEDY, AND PENELLO On December 21, 1973, Administrative Law Judge Ramey Donovan issued the attached Decision in this proceeding. Thereafter, the General Counsel filed exceptions and a supporting brief, and the Respon- dent filed an answering brief. Pursuant to the provisions of Section 3(b) of the National Labor Relations Act, as amended, the National Labor Relations Board has delegated its authority in this proceeding to a three-member panel. The Board has considered the record and the attached Decision in light of the exceptions and briefs and has decided to affirm the rulings, findings, and conclusions of the Administrative Law Judge and to adopt his recommended Order. ORDER Pursuant to Section 10(c) of the National Labor Relations Act, as amended, the National Labor Relations Board adopts as its Order the recommend- ed Order of the Administrative Law Judge and hereby orders that the complaint be, and it hereby is, dismissed in its entirety. DECISION RAMEY DONOVAN, Administrative Law Judge: The charge in this case was filed on June 12, 1973, by Highway and Local Motor Freight Employees Local Union No. 667, affiliated with the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, Chauffeurs, Warehousemen and Helpers of America, herein the Union. The General Counsel of the Board through the Regional Director of Region 26 of the Board issued a complaint on August 14, 1973, against American Express Reservations, Inc., herein Respondent or the Company. The complamt alleges that since April 7. 1972, the Union has been the exclusive bargaining agent of a described unit of Respondent's employees. It is further alleged that, since on or about January 12, 1973, Respon- dent has refused to bargain with the Union in that Respondent negotiated in bad faith and with no intention of entering into a final or binding contract; that commenc- I Hall, another assistant agent of the Union, participated with Tucker in substantially all the negotiations but he testified only briefly and only with respect to a May 25, 1973. luncheon that he and Tucker had with Weintraub Whyte, vice president of the Company, and Hargrove. personnel manager. were with Weintraub at many of the negotiating 209 NLRB No. 172 1105 ing on or about April 17, 1973, Respondent by two-named employees, alleged to be agents of Respondent, solicited employees to sign a petition to decertify the Union, and that Respondent aided and assisted the petition solicitors by allowing solicitation thereof on working time in working areas while denying similar privileges to employees supporting the Union; that on or about May 25, 1973, the Respondent withdrew recognition of the Union as the representative of the employees in the appropriate unit. The aforesaid conduct is alleged to be in violation of Section 8(a)(1) and (5) of the Act. In its answer, Respondent denies the commission of the alleged unfair labor practices. The trial of the case was held in Memphis, Tennessee, on October 2-5, 1973, inclusive, with all parties participating through respective counsel. FINDINGS AND CONCLUSIONS 1. JURISDICTION Respondent, at all times material, is a corporation doing business in Memphis, Tennessee, where it is engaged in providing reservation services. In a representative 12-month period, Respondent, in the course and conduct of its business, provided services valued in excess of $50,000 outside the State of Tennessee. Respondent is an employer engaged in commerce within the meaning of the Act and the Union is a labor organization within the meaning of the Act. II. THE ALLEGED UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICES On April 7, 1972, the National Labor Relations Board, herein the Board , by its Regional Director , Region 26, Memphis, Tennessee, conducted a stipulated consent election in an appropriate unit of Respondent 's employees. The Union won the election and was certified on April 17, 1972, as the exclusive bargaining agent in the following unit: Included: All reservation sales agents , support agents, and file agents employed by the Employer at its location at 4023 Knight Arnold Road, Memphis, Tennessee. Excluded: All other employees, including office clerical employees, administrative employees, watchmen, guards and supervisors as defined in the Act, including lead agents. The contacts, arrangements, and contract negotiations that ensued thereafter between the representatives of the parties, the Company and the Union, were conducted principally by Weintraub, attorney for the Company, and by Tucker, assistant business agent of the Union. Concern- ing the aforesaid matters, Weintraub and Tucker were also the sole witnesses at the hearing.' Both Weintraub and Tucker testified from their recollec- tions of events, aided by their respective notes made during sessions, principally, it would appear, in an informational resource capacity. Neither testified regarding the negotiations. Parham , Augustine, and Moffitt, union officials , who participated in about one session each , did not testify 1106 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD the various meetings. I have carefully considered all the evidence and where there are differences or conflicts I have resolved them in accordance with what I believe is the more accurate and credible version and conclusion. While it is neither feasible nor necessary to describe each occurence or bargaining session in every detail, what follows is my description of material events in accordance with my analysis of the evidence, and my observations and conclusions thereon. Preliminarily, I consider it relevant in this particular case to mention that Weintraub is an experienced labor law attorney in the Memphis area and he had represented a variety of employer clients over the years of dealing with the instant Union, Local 667 of the Teamsters. Tucker and Hall are experienced union representatives. Tucker and Weintraub, representing, respectively, the Umon and employers, have negotiated contracts with each other in the past. In the 1972-73 period with which this case is concerned, the professional relationship between Wein- traub, on the one hand, with Tucker, Hall, and other union officials, on the other, has been cordial and friendly and generally bereft of the tension and animosity that some- times exists between adversaries in this field. The foregoing factors existed cheek by jowl with the fact that, in my opinion, in the instant contract negotiations, both Wein- traub and Tucker were seeking to maximize the interests of the respective parties that they were representing. After the April 17, 1972. certification of the Umon, the Union first contacted Weintraub on Wednesday, April 26, 1972. Tucker telephoned Weintraub on the 26th and said that he was going to hold a union meeting for the Respondent's unit employees and he asked Weintraub about posting a notice to notify the employees of the meeting. Weintraub agreed and since the meeting was only a few days hence Weintraub had his partner pick up the notice at the union office and take it to the Company where it was posted. The next union contact with Weintraub was a telephone call from Hall on Thursday, June 15, 1972. Hall asked Weintraub "to set up a meeting" between the parties for contract negotiations. Weintraub said that he would check with the Company and would let Hall know early next week. Weintraub called Hall on Monday, June 19, and suggested Monday or Tuesday, June 26 or 27, as meeting dates, explaining and describing his prior engagements during the week of June 19. Hall mentioned some problem of his own that made June 26 or 27 undesirable and proposed Friday, June 23. Weintraub said that he would try to cancel a union negotiation session he had scheduled in Wihmington on that day and would call back. Thereafter Weintraub called Hall and they agreed to meet on Friday, June 23. On June 23, 1972, Tucker, Hall, and Weintraub met in the latter's office. The meeting ran from approximately 3:30 p.m. to 5:15 p.m. and was devoted almost exclusively to a three-party conversation on baseball, tennis, Wein- traub's brother, similar miscellany, and as Tucker, in his testimony, summed it up, we "just had quite a bit of conversation." Nothing was said about contract negotia- tions until about 10 or 15 minutes before the end of the session. Weintraub at that point, apparently around 5 p.m., asked Tucker, what about the contract. Tucker then took a printed copy of the National Master Freight Agreement from his briefcase and handed it to Weintraub, adding, "you know your operations better than we do, why don't you make it [a proposed contract] up." Weintraub said something to the effect about himself not being the one to take the lead in drawing up the initial contract proposal but said that he would talk to the Company about the matter. Thus ended the first meeting between the parties. The National Agreement that Tucker had handed Weintraub on June 23 is the national contract between the Teamsters International Union and the Southern Confer- ence of Teamsters, an area division of the International, on the one hand, and a national trucking employer organiza- tion and allied trucking employer associations, on the other hand. The entire document consists of 163 printed pages, including pages 107 to 157 which consists of the Teamsters Southern Conference Clerical Employees Supplemental Agreement. As the name indicates, the latter contract covers clerical employees of trucking companies, such as rate clerks, Interline clerks, OS & D clerks, Manifest clerks, Abstract clerks, and so forth. Such categories as stenogra- phers and typists who are covered in the above clerical contract are excluded from the certified unit at Respon- dent's operations. Both Respondent and the trucking companies have such people as file clerks but how much work and working conditions in common a file clerk at American Express Reservations has with a file clerk of a trucking company is not immediately apparent and at no time was explicated in the instant case. The aforementioned clerical agreement expressly pro- vides that it is supplemental to and becomes a part of the National Master Freight Agreement and shall prevail over the National Master Freight Agreement only to the extent specifically provided. The parties next met on July 14, 1972. Tucker, when asked, "how this meeting was arranged," replied, "Again by mutual agreement." 2 A substantial part of this meeting was consumed by discussion of two employees whose terminations were raised by Tucker with Weintraub at this meeting. One of the employees was a rank-and-file employee and Tucker discussed the merits of her case. Weintraub said he would check into the facts with the Company. The other employee was a supervisor; there were rumors of a walkout over her discharge; and Tucker told Weintraub that he, Tucker, had informed the girls that they had nothing to do with supervision. Admittedly, these two personnel matters had nothing to do with a proposed contract or contract negotiations. What may be termed the contract negotiation portion of the meeting consisted of the following: Weintraub said that there would be a basic problem because the Company did not believe, as a matter of principle, in company checkoff of union dues; he said 2 The answer that the meeting was "again" arranged by mutual available "we [Tucker and Hall ] already had previous commitments on." In agreement is self explanatory It indicated equal responsibility for, and short, apparently both parties were busy people and without allocating any equal partlupation in, arranging the date and time of meeting. As Tucker discernible priority to the instant contract negotiations they sandwiched in asserted in connection with a different meeting, Weintraub had prior their contract negotiations at mutually convenient times "by mutual commitments on certain dates, and on dates that Weintraub proposed as agreement" AMERICAN EXPRESS RESERVATIONS, INC. that there would be no problem about economics and he felt that economic matters could be worked out successful- ly. The parties from the beginning were in mutual agreement that they would first negotiate the noneconomic parts of the contract and would later discuss economics. The Union said that checkoff was important to it and that it needed checkoff. The parties discussed checkoff back and forth. Tucker pointed out that many of the girls had already signed union checkoff authorizations. Weintraub said that many girls had complained to the Company about having gotten into the matter and now regretted being stuck with it and that one girl had spoken to him personally about the subject. Weintraub also said that the Company did not want to bear the burden of making up the initial contract proposal and that the Union would have to make a contract proposal to the Company. Weintraub either expressly said or indicated that the National Master Freight Agreement and its clerical supplement did not constitute a germane contract proposal.3 Tucker, near the end of the meeting, said that he would prepare a contract proposal and would submit it. The parties next met on July 24 or 25. According to Tucker, the date was arrived at by mutual agreement. At the beginning of the meeting the parties again discussed the case of the employee who had been one of the topics of discussion at the prior meeting. They then went into the matter of checkoff. The Union said that checkoff was necessary. Weintraub in substance urged the Union to forego checkoff "'this year," i.e. in the initial contract, and indicated that "the next time," at the next contract, he did not think that there would be a problem about a checkoff. The Union's response to this approach was negative. Weintraub then said, suppose I recommend a checkoff clause to the Company that would be operative for checkoff authorizations signed by employees after the contract is executed, indicating to the Union that such a provision would get the Company off the hook as to the employees' assertions that they had signed checkoff authorizations in the past without knowing what they were getting into. The Union rejected this suggestion. Weintraub then asked, what if he recommended to the Company an open end checkoff, i.e. a checkoff subject to a provision that the employee could revoke her checkoff authorization at any time. Tucker said that he would not go for that. Weintraub suggested that Tucker check into the two foregoing ideas on checkoff and consider them further? Weintraub then asked Tucker where was the Union's proposed contract that Tucker, at the July 14 meeting, said would be forthcoming. Tucker replied that the National 3 As we have seen, on June 23, when Tucker handed Weintraub the National Freight Agreement, he told Weintraub that Weintraub should draw up a proposed contract Since employees join a union because they wish to attain certain wages, hours , and conditions, and a union represents them to attain certain desired conditions, it is normal and logical that the aspirations and goals of the employees and the union be set forth in an initial contract proposal by the Union 1 he National Master Freight Agreement and Clerical Supplement would require extensive adaptation before it could serve the instant Company's operation and Tucker had not delineated any particular provisions that he considered to be appropriate If Weintraub had signed the National Freight contract as presented it would have been unworkable for all parties. For instance, on grievances, the clerical supplement, basically similar to the National Freight basic contract, provided that if a grievance was not settled by the local union and the 1107 Freight Agreement and Clerical Supplement could be used. Weintraub said that they were inappropriate and filled with clauses inappropriate to his client's business or to any business but a trucking company. Weintraub suggested that Tucker submit something like the Coming Glass contract that Weintraub had negotiated with the Team- sters. Tucker said he could get the Telephone contract but neither the Union nor Weintraub would like it because it was too complicated. Tucker finally said that he would draw up a contract proposal. This was the end of the meeting. On August 7, 1972, the Union mailed to Weintraub a 22- page contract proposal (G.C. Exh. 12) which, aside from the previously submitted National Freight Agreement, was the first contract proposal submitted. The union proposal contained the following articles: recognition; union shop and dues checkoff; seniority; transfer of company title or interest; time off for union activities; stewards; mainte- nance of standards; bulletin boards; discharge or suspen- sion; grievance and arbitration (this included third party binding arbitration of unresolved grievances and also a no- strike and no lockout provision); savings clause; compen- sation claims; call-out and reporting pay; holidays (12); vacations; posting: work week and wage rates (no wage proposals were made); bonds; examinations and identifica- tions fees; health and welfare ("Teamsters Health and Welfare Plan"); pension ("Teamsters Pension Plan"); pay period; cost of living; separability and savings clause; sick leave; education assistance plan; credit union; absences with pay: maternity leave; duration (no proposed duration was set forth). The next meeting was on August 25, 1973.5 Apparently this meeting had been arranged by mutual agreement. At the August 25 meeting, the parties in effect skimmed through the union contract proposal, clarifying and discussing it in somewhat cursory fashion. They did discuss seniority at some length. Weintraub undertook to explain what he considered to be the complex nature of the Company's operation and gave some description of the existing recognition of seniority in the bidding system for shifts and the multiple preference system.6 Tucker, in substance, said that we can handle it and he said he had a "deal" (a contract seniority clause?) that worked the same way and he would send Weintraub a copy. They then talked about another aspect of bidding. The discharge and suspension clause of the Union's proposal was discussed. They discussed existing lunch periods. This was the end of the meeting and at this point they discussed a date for the next meeting. Tucker said, we have to move faster, the girls employer it should go to the State or Multiple State Committee, with final recourse to the Southern Conference Area Grievance Committee All these aforementioned committees were composed of representatives of employers and unions in the trucking industry. 4 Subsequently, and apparently a day or so after the meeting, Weintraub spoke on the telephone to Tucker or Augustine, president of the local union The Union affirmed the rejection of Weintraub's two ideas or suggestions on checkoff 5 Tucker in describing the various meetings does not mention any meeting in August 6 The Company operates on a 24-hour basis Employees have a wide variety of starting and quitting times, e g some start work at 8 a in., some at 9, 10, 11, 12, and so forth Apparently they bid not only on a shift but bid in advance on preferences for the hours and for days off and so forth. 1108 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD are pressuring us. Weintraub then said, we did not hear from you for 2 1/2 months after the certification and then you did not submit a proposal and Weintraub went on to recount the delays and so forth as he viewed the situation. Weintraub said that most recently you called me on August 24 and I agreed to meet today. Both parties then, at the end of the August 25 meeting, mutually agreed to meet on September 6, 1972. At the September 6 meeting, Tucker suggested putting some items aside and trying to reach agreement on others and thus show some progress. Weintraub agreed. Wein- traub went on to explain that the Company's business required flexibility in operations because it involved a new computerized system of operation. He said the Company had lost money in experimenting with the operations and all or all but one competitor had similar experiences and had gone out of business. Weintraub said that the Company's reservation system dealt with a variety of customers, different hotel or motel chains and so forth, all of whom had different policies and therefore the Compa- ny's reservation system was different than, for instance, the Holiday Inn reservation system which involved only the Holiday Inn operations and not other operations. The parties discussed many articles in the Union's contract proposal. Some they discussed at considerable length and others they passed over after relatively brief discussion. They explored seniority and bidding at some length and made progress. Weintraub said that he would prepare a counterproposal that he would submit to the Union. They then agreed to adjourn. On September 13, Tucker mailed to Weintraub a multiple shift bid sheet used for the drivers, lift operators, and so forth at American Express Company. This was pursuant to his previous conversation with Weintraub about having something that could be used re the bidding system. This document, for some reason, was never actually discussed by the parties after receipt and it is not explained in the record. As far as I can discern, the American Express referred to by Tucker in his September 13 letter enclosing the bid sheet is something different from the instant company, American Express Reservations, which apparently had no personnel in the nature of drivers and lift operators and no corporate connection is shown nor was an attempt made at explication. Weintraub, on September 22, mailed to Tucker a three- page detailed description by Whyte of the Company's existing bidding which stressed the fluctuations and flexibility therein that the Company considered essential. The document dealt with the bidding in general, seniority, and filling job openings; the support operation and quarterly bidding and bidding between quarters; the 7 Presumably Weintraub 's argument meant that if, for instance , a union- security clause was invalidated , renegotiation could entitle a union to argue therein that wages or holidays should be increased as a compensatory measure for the invalidated union security and so forth 9 It is appropriate to point out that in describing this meeting , as well as prior and subsequent meetings when the parties were discussing contract provisions , it is not feasible to describe every topic and what was said by each side I have and shall continue to describe some matters in relative detail as illustrative of the bargaining As a general and overall description, I will state that both parties gave reasons- for their positions More importantly, since it is the Company that is the Respondent , the evidence shows, in my opinion , that Weintraub consistently gave reasons for his telephone sales operation and basic shifts and supplemen- tal floating shifts, as well as swapping shifts. At the next meeting on September 22, Weintraub submitted a typed counterproposal consisting of the following articles: recognition; health, safety and sanita- tion ; bulletin board; nondiscrimination ; seniority (3 1/2 pages); leave of absence ; saving clause ; settlement of disputes (4 step grievance procedure, with final step being the company vice president); management rights; stew- ards; discipline and discharge; no strike-no lockout; overtime ; entire agreement. The parties discussed a number of the articles in detail and in my opinion their respective positions, contentions, questions , and agreements were consistent with good-faith bargaining. On some of the matters they narrowed their differences and on others the differences were at least explicated. Agreement was reached on bulletin boards and nondiscrimination. Some items that were in the Union's proposal of August 7, such as checkoff and third party arbitration, were not in the Company's September 22 counterproposal and were not discussed on September 22. The Union's proposed savings clause, which dealt with the situation where any part of the contract was ruled invalid by a court, provided that the Union could thereupon renegotiate the clause in question or take economic action. The company proposal on a savings clause did not provide for renegotiation or economic action. Weintraub argued that renegotiation during the term of the contract was too open ended and renegotiation on one clause could spill over into compensatory changes in other clauses 7 and that any renegotiation or other action should be deferred until negotiations for the next contract. The next meeting was held at the union hall on October 17, 1972. Prior meetings had been held at Weintraub's office. The situs of the meetings was not a matter of dispute. On October 17 the parties agreed on a 3-month probationary period for new employees. The union contract proposal of August 7 contained no probationary clause. The company proposal of September 22 contained a 4-month probationary period. On September 22 Tucker was not aware that the existing probationary period was 3 months but on October 17 they agreed on 3 months. Factors to be used on promotions were discussed at some length . 8 Agreement was reached on shift assignments. Agreement was reached on the union contention that seniority should date from, or be cut off, as April 7, 1972, the date of the Board election. Agreement was attained on the seniority article . The parties discussed the article on stewards. Tucker asked why arbitration was not provided for in the company proposal on grievances .9 Weintraub said in substance that it was a new company in a relatively opposition to union proposals and also gave reasons for his own counterproposals Obviously, the foregoing observation is not dispositive of the issue of whether there was only surface bargaining but it is to be borne in mind in reading my description of the meetings where I do not set forth complete details of the bargaining on every topic 9 The September 22 company contract proposal contained no arbitration provision Near the end of the September 22 meeting, Tucker asked Weintraub if he had not forgotten something in the grievance article Weintraub said that the ommission of arbitration was deliberate . This ended the conversation and it was at the next meeting, October 17, that arbitration was first actually discussed. AMERICAN EXPRESS RESERVATIONS, INC. new business and the Company needed to continue experimenting and, in the process thereof, making mis- takes; that policies were changing constantly and varied from customer to customer; that the Company needed this flexibility and would be too vulnerable in arbitration where an arbitrator might view changes in policy as arbitrary or inconsistent with some prior policy and therefore would decide that this or that action was unfair and so forth. Weintraub urged the Union to accept the four-step grievance procedure with no third party arbitration. The parties agreed to hold the topic in abeyance and pass on to other matters. Next was the meeting of October 28. The Union submitted proposals on the management rights clause, discharge and suspension, grievance-arbitration clause, and suspension. These matters were discussed back and forth. The grievance-arbitration clause was basically the same as the one set forth in the Union's original August 7 contract proposal, i.e., if a grievance was not resolved at lower levels, it would be referred to an arbitration committee composed of a company and union representa- tive, plus a third impartial member to be mutually agreed upon by the two aforementioned members. In the event of failure to agree on the third member, the Federal Mediation Service would select the third member and the decision of the arbitration committee would be final and binding. Weintraub argued that the complexity of the Company's operation and the frequent and numerous changes in policies would result in numerous arbitrations and the Company needed to stabilize its operations before having to contend with arbitration. The parties discussed overtime and voluntary or involuntary aspects thereof. Weintraub indicated that the language of the Union proposal on the overtime aspect was acceptable but he wished to submit something a little more precise and would do so in a subsequent meeting. The parties then met on November 20. Respondent presented three written counterproposals on stewards, discharge, and suspension, and on overtime. They reached agreement on overtime and made substantial progress on stewards and discharge and suspensions, as well as on the management's rights clause. The advances made in narrowing differences at this and other meetings were due to mutual give and take by both parties. The next meeting was on November 21.10 The Company submitted written proposals on stewards; discipline and discharge; no-strike-no lockout; and transfer of opera- tions. The Union submitted a written proposal on no- strike, no lockout. The parties reached agreement on stewards and on discipline and supervision. On no-strike, the Union's original contract proposal of August 7 simply included a no-strike sentence of three and a half lines in the grievance-aibitration article. The sentence provided that there would be no strike or lockout and that all matters under the contract would finally be disposed of by arbitration. On November 21, in line with prior discussion, the Union's no-strike clause said nothing about arbitration in the no-strike article but arbitration was now set forth only in the Union's grievance article and it included an 10 This is the only time that the parties met on successive days and, as we shall see, November 1972 was the only month, before or since, in which the 1109 exculpatory provision, i.e., no union liability for a strike, slowdown, stoppage, not supported by the Union, provided the Union made a bona fide effort to end the strike, slowdown, or stoppage. The parties were apart on this exculpatory portion of a no-strike article. They went to the Union's proposed clauses on workmen's compensation; performance bonds for employees, with the employer paying for and securing required bonds; and maintenance of standards. Weintraub contended that such clauses were unnecessary and characterized them as trucking industry clauses. He said that they were not needed in the instant contract, pointing out that the employees handled no merchandise and so forth. He further said that while maintenance of standards had meaning in the trucking industry, it was too general for the Company, and the Company did not know what it was "buying" under such a clause. Near the end of the meeting Weintraub said that, in a few days, he wanted to talk further with the Union regarding the demand for checkoff and arbitration. On November 28 Weintraub spoke to Tucker on the telephone. He told Tucker that the news was not good regarding agreement on checkoff. Tucker said, "Well, if you don't agree to the check off, you know what Augie [Augustine, president of the local union and Tucker's superior] would tell me? . . . He'll tell me not to negotiate [not to reach agreement on ] any other items until you agree to checkoff." The parties met on November 30. Pursuant to previous discussions they were in substantial agreement on the transfer of operations article. On union proposals regard- ing physical examinations; workmen's compensation; bonds; and maintenance of standards, Weintraub said that they were trucking industry clauses and urged that they be dropped. The Union did not respond. The parties then went to lunch together. At lunch, Weintraub strongly urged Tucker and Hall to forego checkoff and arbitration in the first contract and to build from there. He appealed to them as realists, as "businessmen ," and as personal friends to drop the two aforementioned demands. Wein- traub said that aside from checkoff and arbitration the opposing negotiators had no real problems. The union representatives indicated that if Weintraub agreed to checkoff they would probably agree on arbitration, i.e., the Union would probably agree to drop its demand for third party arbitration on unresolved grievances and would accept the Company's grievance proposal which did not provide for arbitration. The matter was discussed at length. The Union said that it had to have the checkoff. It was agreed that at some time after the meeting Weintraub could talk directly with Augustine on the matter of checkoff. The parties did not meet in December, apparently by mutual agreement. However, on December 6 or 7, Weintraub spoke with Augustine on the telephone. Essentially, Weintraub made the same appeal or sales talk on checkoff and arbitration to Augustine as he had to Tucker and Hall. Augustine affirmed the union proposal of probably accepting the Company's no-arbitration griev- ance clause if the Company agreed to checkoff. Weintraub parties met as many as four times 1110 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD urged Augustine to accept the Company's no-arbitration grievance and to forego checkoff. Augustine said that the Union had to have checkoff and that "as long as you refuse to agree to check off, we are not going to negotiate anything else." The parties next met on January 3, 1973. Augustine was present with Tucker and Hall. Weintraub asked that the Union drop its proposals on physical examinations, bonds, and maintenance of standards as not relevant to the Company's operation. On the savings clause, Weintraub said that the union proposal that invalid sections of the contract could be renegotiated was too broad. No agreement was reached on the foregoing matters although the parties discussed them as well as workmen's compensa- tion at some length. Weintraub asked about checkoff authorization and the Union gave him one of its blank checkoff authorization cards. The Union said that the union shop was also one of its demands and has not been dropped.ti Weintraub said that except for checkoff and arbitration, the parties were practically through with the the noneconomic items. Tucker said we are quite a ways from agreement. Tucker said he wanted to hear Wein- traub's argument against checkoff. Weintraub said, you have heard it a number of times and he repeated that the Company did not want to be in the middle between the employees and the Union on the matter of dues. At one point on January 3, according to Tucker, Weintraub spoke with Tucker aside and asked what would Tucker's position be if there was language inserted in the contract giving an employee the right to withdraw from checkoff at any time. Tucker said that he would not agree to such a provision because the checkoff authorization spelled out how an employee could withdraw (the authorization provided that it was irrevocable for the term of the contract or for 1 year whichever is less and was automatically renewed for successive yearly or contract periods unless written notice was given at least 60 or no more than 75 days before any periodic renewal date). Tucker said that if an employee or member came down to the union hall and asked to get out of his checkoff authorization, the Union would take him off checkoff.12 Tucker asked'to hear Weintraub's argu- ments against an arbitration clause. Weintraub again went into the complexity of the Company's operation and said it had spent thousands of dollars on surveys and still found its operations unpredictable. He said that the Company could only operate if it could freely experiment, make mistakes and learn; that at the end of this contract the Company would either have stablized or would go out of business; and if it stablized, the Company would have a different perspective on arbitration at the succeeding contract negotiations. Weintraub urged that the Union drop its demand for arbitration. The Union did not respond. They discussed the no-strike clause on which their disagreement centered on the Union's provision to excul- pate the Union if it, in effect, was not responsible for a strike or walkout. It was Weintraub's position that the exculpatory clause should be omitted and that a court 11 in its August 7, 1972, contract proposal, the Union's article II was "Union Shop and Dues" and checkoff was part of this article There had been little or no discussion of "union shop" in the various negotiating meetings. could decide on the Union's responsibility or nonresponsi- bility for a strike or walkout. He cited an experience where such a clause caused the employer a great deal of trouble in the situation where there was disagreement about whether the Union had made a bona fide effort to stop a strike. No agreement was reached. The next meeting was January 9. The Union raised the matter of checkoff. Tucker said that he would accept substitute language on checkoff. Weintraub said he had suggested that possibility a long time ago and the Umon had rejected it. He then repeated the alternatives he had mentioned on July 25, of checkoff for employees who signed checkoff authorization after the contract was executed and the right of employees to revoke their checkoff authorizations at any time. Tucker asked Wein- traub, "are you proposing those?" and Weintraub said, "no, you turned me down flat." Tucker said, we are still holding for checkoff and we are not withdrawing union shop. At some point Tucker asked, are we at an impasse. Weintraub said, no. Weintraub then listed various items in dispute such as physical examination , checkoff, union shop, and savings clause. They discussed workmen's compensation. Weintraub urged the Union to agree "on some of the other stuff" and said, who knows what will happen. He said, you give some and we will give some and dust indicate that you are giving some of these items and we will be ready to move on our part. They discussed the union proposal on pay periods. They discussed whether they were in agreement on the steps of the grievance procedure prior to arbitration. Tucker's testimony indi- cates that when they discussed arbitration, Weintraub had said that arbitration may be in the next contract but he did not want it in this contract. Tucker said that one person from the Union and one person from the Company could agree on a third person to settle gnevances.13 Weintraub did not agree. The January 16 meeting was held at the Federal Mediation office. The Union started with its contract proposal of August 7, 1972, starting with article II, union shop and dues checkoff. They discussed the article which was fairly long since it embraced union shop and various ancillary features such as maintenance of membership and agency shop. The parties were not in agreement on various aspects. On the checkoff portion of the article, Weintraub said he could not agree to it. Tucker asked for Weintraub's reasons. Weintraub said that he had stated them many times . He said that the Company believes that dues is a matter between the Union and the employees. On seniority and probation the parties affirmed that they were in agreement. Weintraub said that he would not agree to the maintenance of standards clause because it was too open ended and he pointed out its lack of specificity as he viewed it. Various other articles were discussed back and forth. On arbitration, the Union proposed the Federal Mediation service as the source of arbitration. Weintraub said that he had no hangups on the Mediation but did not mean thereby that he was agreeing to arbitration. On the 12 There is no indication that such a proposition would be placed in the contract or in the checkoff authorization card 13 Apparently this third party would not be called an arbitrator AMERICAN EXPRESS RESERVATIONS, INC. savings clause they were apart on the Union's demand for renegotiation in the event an article of the contract was invalidated by a court. On physical examinations Wein- traub argued in effect that it was a trucking industry article and that the instant Company did not require nor did it need physical examinations of the employees. They also discussed pay periods. The next meeting was January 23, 1973, at Federal Mediation. The mediator asked for a summary of out- standing issues. According to Weintraub, Tucker then enumerated checkoff; maintenance of standards; griev- ance-arbitration; workmen's compensation; bonds; physi- cal examination; pay period; savings clause; no-strike: duration.14 On arbitration the Union submitted a proposal that if the Company and the union representatives could not agree on a third member of the board of arbitration, the neutral third party would be selected from a Federal Mediation list and the decision of the arbitration board on grievances would be final. Weintraub rejected this, saying that it was not the language in an arbitration clause that was the problem but it was the policy of third party arbitration that the Company did not want. They discussed a few of the other items. Weintraub said that the Company would change position and would agree on some items if it knew that the Union would give on some items. The mediator then placed the parties in separate rooms. According to Weintraub, the mediator thereafter reported to him and the company representatives that the Union would not agree on any of the listed items because this would leave only checkoff and arbitration as outstanding issues and on these issues alone the Union feared that it would not have the popular support of the employees. The meeting ended without discernible accomplishment. The next meeting, which was on February 15, was held at Federal Mediation. On pay periods, Weintraub said that the cost and mechanics of the union proposal were heavy but he was not saying, no, and would discuss it further with the company personnel manager when the latter returned from New York. Weintraub asked about the maintenance of standards article. Tucker's position on physical exami- nations was that he still wanted the article. On the savings clause, Tucker said that he still wanted the provision for renegotiation. Asked about union shop, Tucker said that it was negotiable but went hand in glove with checkoff. On checkoff, Tucker said his position was the same. Wein- traub said that he wanted to break the logjam. He offered counterproposals on workmen's compensation and bonds in contrast to his prior position that these items were trucking industry clause and inappropriate. Tucker said that he would, in a short time, give Weintraub an answer on the aforesaid counterproposals. Tucker asked if there was any change in Weintraub's position on checkoff. Weintraub said, no. After caucusing, the Union, through the mediator, said that it would accept the company proposals on workmen's compensation and bonds if the Company agreed to checkoff. Weintraub said, no, and urged Tucker to accept the two items without checkoff. Tucker said, no. Asked about the physical examination 14 Tucker's testimony indicated that he listed a good many more outstanding issues in addition, including call out and reporting pay, holidays, vacations, work week and wage rates, health and welfare; clause, the Union said that it needed it. The parties were still apart on the savings clause since the Union wanted the right to renegotiate contract provisions in the event of a decision of invalidity by a court. Tucker asked Weintraub to consider a new union proposal on arbitration. This proposal was that if a grievance was not adjusted to the Union's satisfaction, the Union would be permitted any legal or economic recourse. Weintraub said that he would consider it. Each party had a new or newly drafted proposal on no-strike. They differed on the Union's inclusion of a provision exculpating the Union if it made a good-faith effort to prevent a strike. The parties met again on March 10 at the union hall. A committee or group of employees was also present for the first time. Weintraub said that the two sides were apart on checkoff; union shop; arbitration; maintenance of stand- ards; savings clause; pay period; no-strike; physical examination ; bonds; workmen's compensation. Weintraub then made a proposal on maintenance of standards and Tucker agreed to it. Weintraub asked Tucker about his position on bonds and workmen's compensation and Tucker said his position was the same . Tucker asked about checkoff. Weintraub said that the dues are a matter between the Union and its members and the Company did not want to be in the middle. He said that some of the employees had told the Company that they had signed checkoff authorizations but they did not want their dues checked off. Weintraub suggested that instead of checkoff, the Union could send its members a monthly statement and have them come to the office and pay. He said that the Company would help by furnishing the Union a list of names and addresses. Tucker asked whether the Company would allow union stewards to collect duel on company time . Weintraub said, no. Tucker then suggested that the standard checkoff be used, plus a provision allowing an employee member to drop his membership in the union upon giving proper written notice. Tucker said that the latter provision would meet the Company's concern about employees being locked into the checkoff. Weintraub said that it sounded like an agency shop but he asked Tucker to put his proposal in writing and the Company would consider it. The parties considered a union proposal on arbitration which would provide that on any grievance not adjusted to the Union's satisfaction , the Union would be permitted any legal or economic recourse. Weintraub said that this would, if anything, be worse for the Company than a standard arbitration provision. Weintraub made an appeal to induce the Union and the employees present to forego arbitration. He said that the employees even without arbitration would be getting a grievance procedure and they had not had this before and had problems in finding supervisors to complain to and they had had the problem of perhaps going over someone 's head on some complaint. Weintraub pointed out the changing nature of the business and said that the Company could not allow third party arbitration to fix its feet in cement . Tucker said that if an arbitrator's decision was unfavorable to the Company the pensions ; cost of living; sick leave, education assistance ; credit union, absence, shift differential. 1112 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD Union would be willing to renegotiate the matter and thus the Company would not be locked in cement. Weintraub rejected this idea. Weintraub said that next time, at the time of the next contract, it might be that that relationship with the Union had matured enough and the Company might have stabilized its policies and operations so that it would not be afraid of arbitration. Shortly before the end of the meeting Tucker said that the Union would accept the Company's counterproposal on bonds. Weintraub asked about possible movement by the Union on the savings clause and Tucker answered in the negative. The next meeting was on April 11, 1973. Between the last meeting on March 10 and the April 11 meeting, the Union had sent another checkoff proposal to Weintraub. This proposal (G.C. Exh. 10) provided in section 1 for checkoff of dues of members the Union who had authorized such deductions; such authorizations would be irrevocable for 1 year or until the termination or renewal of the contract whichever was sooner, and such authorizations were automatically renewed unless notice was sent not more than 15 days before each 1-year period or each succeeding contract, whichever occurred sooner; section 2 provided that the form of the checkoff authorization was to be supplied by the Union (the checkoff authorization form had been given to Weintraub and has been described earlier in this Decision (Resp. Exh. 4)); "Section 4. In the event a member of the Union desires to withdraw from said union, the member will be permitted to terminate his or her membership with the Union at any time upon proper written notice . . . without regard to Section 1 above." At the April l l meeting, Weintraub said that the above union proposal on checkoff was in effect an agency shop and the employees would still be bound by the contract and by the checkoff authorization cards they had signed. Weintraub, in substance, suggested that the 1-year irrevo- cability language be eliminated. He and Tucker discussed the matter at length. Tucker then said that he would give Weintraub what Weintraub wanted and, in section 4, above, of the proposal, Tucker physically crossed out the words "said union" and wrote "ckoff [checkoff ]" and also crossed out the word "membership" and wrote "ckoff." Weintraub then, in effect, said that these alterations did not solve the problem and he pointed to the language of section 1 of the proposal and the language of the checkoff authorization card, both of which spoke of irrevocability and revocability only under certain specified conditions such as 1 year and so forth. Tucker indicated a lack of comprehension of Weintraub's contention and told Wein- traub to write a checkoff article. Weintraub responded that Tucker should write it. Weintraub said that he was rejecting the union proposal and was restating the Company's basic position that it did not want a checkoff provision. Tucker submitted a handwritten "Economic Proposal." Thus: Holidays. As proposed Article 15, page 13 of our original proposal [proposal of August 7, 1972] Then followed a list of topics such as vacations, health and welfare, pension, and so forth, each with the statement "as proposed" in some specified article of the Union's original August 7, 1972, contract proposal. On shift differential, in addition to a reference to the original contract proposal, there was written "25 cents." Also, with reference to wages, there was written "40 cents. Wages open for Discussion." According to Tucker, agreement was reached on the vacation article but not on holidays. On shift differential Tucker proposed 20 cents although the written proposal showed 25 cents. On wages, Tucker states that he proposed 30 cents across the board. Tucker states that this was the first time that wages and amount came up and that the 30 cents did not include fringe benefits. The financial matters had not been previously discussed and, according to Tucker, the parties had not done so "because we were tied up on the language of arbitration, check-off, no strike or lockout." As far as appears the only discussion of wages on April 1l was very limited. Tucker testified that he had written that wages were "open for discussion." Weintraub asked him what the Union had in mind on wages and Tucker replied "30 cents an hour across the board." As far as appears the matter was not discussed further and Weintraub neither said yes or no or otherwise. 15 The next meeting was April 20, 1973. The union representatives were again accompanied by a group of employees. Considerable time at the meeting was devoted by Tucker to asking the aforementioned employees their opinions about arbitration and other matters separating the parties. At one point Tucker said that he would agree to the Company's no-arbitration grievance procedure if the Company would drop the management rights clause which apparently the parties had agreed on previously. Wein- traub rejected this proposal. The Union then asked Weintraub for an economic proposal. Weintraub indicated that he was prepared to submit an economic proposal but indicated that the Company had not yet received the Union's proposal on wages, which, Weintraub said, was an unusual situation. After a caucus, according to Weintraub, Tucker said that the Union wanted 40 cents an hour in a 1- year contract and he also referred to a shift differential.is During the meeting Weintraub submitted in writing what was captioned as "American Express Company Economic Counter-Proposal." 17 The first article was holidays, with four sections under that article; vacations, three sections; and other articles such as absences with pay; work week and wage rates. There were no proposed wage rates set forth under this last-mentioned article. After lunch on that date the Union submitted a handwritten document entitled "Union Counter-Proposal," including the initial statement, "this is a Package Offer." Then were listed 13 subjects: checkoff; arbitration; holidays; vacations; shift differential and statement that Union was agreeable to 20-cent differential; education assistance plan was acceptable to Union; sick leave; credit union "OK"; health and welfare; 15 Weintraub's testimony tends to indicate that the matter of wages did 16 Tucker's testimony places the first discussion of wages at the April I I not come up until the next meeting. April 20, and that he told Tucker on meeting. April 20 that he had not yet received a wage proposal from the Union 17 Resp Exh. 14. AMERICAN EXPRESS RESERVATIONS, INC. pension; cost of living; absences with pay; work week. Included on the document were statements that all proposals and agreements were tentative and subject to agreement on the entire package. Weintraub asked various questions about the items on the union counterproposal. He said that the Company accepted items that he named in the union counterproposal such as 20-cent shift differen- tial; educational assistance; and so forth but that he rejected checkoff and arbitration. The parties asked questions about and discussed the various proposals and counterproposals aforementioned. Since the Union had submitted a 40-cent wage increase proposal, Hall asked Weintraub if he did not have a wage proposal. Weintraub said that he had only just not received the union wage proposal. Before the meeting ended, Tucker said that he had learned that in indicating agreement to a 20-cent shift differential he had agreed to less than the existing differential and he therefore was withdrawing his agree- ment. At a later meeting the parties reached agreement on a higher than 20-cent shift differential. On May 4, the parties met again. The Union submitted what it captioned as "Union Economic Counter Proposal." Various subjects with accompanying language were pres- ented such as checkoff; arbitration; holidays; vacations; work week and wage rates [no monetary wage rates set forth]; sick leave; and so forth. Some other listed subjects, such as "Savings Clause"; "No Strike or Lockout"; "Duration," simply stated, "open for discussion." After caucusing, the Company stated its position on the various above items. There was agreement on a number of subjects, including shift differential, and on other subjects the parties were near agreement except for some language modifications or clarifications. Weintraub told the Union that the Company rejected checkoff and arbitration. On arbitration, the union proposal simply stated that management rights were excluded from arbitration. On checkoff, the Union's May 4 proposal provided in section 1 for checkoff of dues by the employer if the employee had authorized the deduction in writing; 18 it provided in section 2 that "the form of such written authorization shall be on a form supplied by the Union";19 in section 4 was stated that "in the event a member of the Union desired to withdraw such authorization (checkoff) the member will be permitted to terminate his or her authorization (checkoff) at any time upon proper written notice...." Regarding the above arbitration proposal, Weintraub said that he rejected it. He said it was not simply a question of management rights being excluded from arbitration but the Company's oft-expressed position was that it was objecting to arbitration as a matter of policy because the Company needed flexibility and the right to make mistakes in a complex business. Weintraub said that if there was an arbitration provision in the contract, the Union could subject almost any company action or change to arbitra- tion by asserting that this or that action constituted a change in operating policy. Tucker said that by its stand on arbitration, the Company in effect wanted to have the right 18 Unlike prior union proposals nothing was said in the section about the conditions under which a checkoff authorization could or could not be revoked by the employee 19 The checkoff authorization form used by the local union had been 1113 to change everything or anything in the contract, such as changing eight holidays to six . Weintraub said that the Company could not do this even if there was no arbitration clause . He said that there would be a binding contract and the Union could bring the Company to court if it violated the contract. With respect to checkoff, Tucker asked Weintraub why he did not want checkoff. Weintraub said that the Company did not want to be involved in the matter and did not want to be in the middle between employees and Union on the matter of dues collection. Tucker said, would you agree to a steward collecting dues on company time. Weintraub said, I am not going to speculate, are you proposing that. Tucker said that he was not proposing, adding that he had made such a proposal 4 months ago and Weintraub had rejected it. The next meeting was on May 17, 1973. Parham, an International representative of the Union from the South- ern Conference of Teamsters in Atlanta, was present, with Tucker and Hall, for the Union, and Parham took the leading role in the meeting . Parham said that checkoff and arbitration were the main problems. Weintraub agreed and said that he felt that if agreement was reached on those two items, the remaining issues would be no problem. On arbitration, Weintraub went over briefly the Company's reasons for not wanting arbitration, such as the complexity of the operation, the need of flexibility, and so forth. Weintraub said, why not try the Company's proposed three-step grievance procedure without arbitration this time and he said that the next time, the next contract, he felt that there would be no problem. Parham said that there were many things that could be done. He said that if the parties did not resolve a grievance by the third step, the attorneys for each side could then "work on it and if they could not work it out they could then "mutually agree on arbitration." Weintraub said that he was interested in the concept but rather than the attorneys he believed that a high ranking union representative and a corresponding management man could be used. Parham expressed no disagreement to this modification of his suggestion. Weintraub then asked, what if the Company did not feel that the grievance should go to arbitration and the company and the union representatives did not mutually agree on arbitration. The last-mentioned questions by Weintraub are clear indications that he interpreted Parham 's suggestion as providing for arbitration only if there was mutual agree- ment by the company and union representatives on going to arbitration. Indeed, Parham had stated that if the representatives of the parties, which he had originally suggested as attorneys, could not agree they could then mutually agree on arbitration. When Parham answered Weintraub's question as to what would happen if there was no mutual agreement on going to arbitration, Parham said that he was sure that the two representatives could agree on an independent third person ,20 such as a judge, "to given by the Union to Weintraub earlier in the negotiations . The form stated that it was irrevocable for 1 year and so forth 20 It is not clear what happened if the representatives did not agree. 1114 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD handle it and be bound by it." Weintraub said that this was a new concept and he was interested. I am not certain what Parham had in mind in the above answer, but I believe that Weintraub either was unsure of the meaning of Parham's remarks or interpreted the answer as within Parham's initial proposal that arbitration would be resorted to only when the parties' representatives mutually agreed. This concept, as Weintraub viewed it, carried through into what Parham said about the repre- sentatives agreeing on a third person such as a judge and agreeing to be bound by his decision.21 In short, such a step would only be taken by mutual agreement, as Weintraub understood it and this is why he stated that Parham had put forward a new concept. The new concept proposal was that arbitration would not be compulsory. Heretofore, all the union proposals had provided for ultimate compulsory arbitration, with such variations as the parties selecting a third neutral party by mutual agreement or from a Federal mediation list, and this third party in conjunction with the company and union representatives would constitute an arbitration board that would render a binding arbitration decision. At the May 17 meeting, Parham also mentioned the possibility of disposing of unresolved grievances by having three employees and three management people in the same room and reaching a decision by majority vote. In response to a question by Weintraub as to feasibility, Parham said that the six persons would be kept in the room until a majority decision was reached. There was little discussion or comment on this matter. With regard to checkoff, Weintraub asked if the Union would consider changing the language on the Union's checkoff authorization card to conform to the contract language regarding withdrawal or revocation.22 The Union caucused and, upon returning, Parham said he might consider what Weintraub was asking and said that the Union had a contract in Atlanta where this had been done. Tucker said something to the effect of having. some checkoff authorization forms that Weintraub would find acceptable. Weintraub indicated that the various proposals made at the meeting appeared promising. The parties then agreed to meet at 10 a.m. on May 31. On May 25, Weintraub called Tucker and Hall and invited them to lunch. At lunch Weintraub said that he had something for them that he did not want them to receive "cold" through the mail and as a matter of courtesy he was presenting it personally. He handed Tucker and Hall a letter dated May 25, 1973, addressed to the Union and signed by Weintraub. The letter read: The Company has a good faith doubt that your organization represents a majority of the employees in the appropriate bargaining unit. Therefore it declines to recognize your organization for the purpose of collec- tive bargaining. After reading the latter neither Tucker nor Hall said 21 Weintraub's testimony indicates that resort to ajudge did not appeal to him particularly but he did not resist what Parham was suggesting on the ground that someone else than a judge might or should be resorted to 22 The Union's most recent checkoff proposal had provided that an employee could terminate his checkoff authorization at any time or written anything. Weintraub, after a period of silence by all parties, asked the union men to say something. Apparently Tucker said something to the effect of having something to say in the future. At no time was Weintraub asked the basis of the good-faith doubt referred to in the letter nor did he volunteer any explication. The evidence presented by the Company indicates that on May 23 or 24, 1973, it received copies of petitions stating that the employees did not wish to be represented by the Union. The petitions, which I shall refer to as decertification petitions as a shorthand description, bore signature names which the Company asserts it believed were signatures of a majority of the unit employees. These petitions are asserted to be the basis of the Company's good-faith doubt of the Union's majority. We shall now consider the petition aspect of the case. The Petition On Tuesday, April 17, 1973, there was a union meeting of Respondent's unit employees at the union hall. Whether by design or by coincidence April 17, 1973, was 1 year after the Union's certification on April 17, 1972. It is obvious that a year had elapsed since the certification and no contract had been consummated ; it is also obvious that the meeting and its date were selected and called by the Union and not by the Company. We do not know either the precise purpose of the meeting or what was said at the meeting itself. Woody, a unit employee until September 1973, was a witness called by the General Counsel. She testified that on April 17, 1973, she saw and spoke to Barbara Emmons and Jean Harrison, two unit employees whom she had not seen at prior union meetings . At the union hall, just prior to the start of the meeting, Woody asked Emmons in the presence of employees Rekus and two others, why she had come to the meeting. Emmons said that she was just curious to see what was going on and, she added, one of the leads 23 had asked her to come to the meeting. Although asked by Woody, Emmons refused to divulge the name of the aforesaid lead. Shortly after the meeting started, Emmons and Harrison left, having been at the meeting less than 30 minutes. Rekus, a unit employee, confirms the foregoing testimony of Woody. Rekus stated that Emmons and Harrison were at the meeting only 15 or 20 minutes. Rekus states that Emmons said that a lead agent had asked her to come and "monitor" the meeting. Woody states that she was at work the following day, Wednesday, April 18, and that she was sitting next to Jean Harrison. According to Woody, Harrison had some kind of a problem or words with a client that morning on the telephone. The lead agent had "bugged" [criticised] Harrison about the matter and Harrison and the lead agent had an exchange of words. Woody places this incident at or about 10:30 a.m. Woody states that after her words with the unnamed lead agent, Harrison "returned" to her work station and called her section lead agent, Larry Boone, notice. The checkoff authorization card, however, stated on its face that it was irrevocable for i year or for the term of the contract whichever was sooner 23 A lead agent is a supervisor, apparently the lowest level of supervisor with respect to unit employees. AMERICAN EXPRESS RESERVATIONS, INC. telling him she wanted to see him. Boone said, "o.k." and Boone and Harrison then left and went to one of the conference rooms. Woody testified that when she went to lunch, about 11'30 a.m.. Boone and Harrison had not returned and that it was about 1:30 or 2 p.m. before Harrison returned to her work station. Upon her return, Harrison said to Woody "that she had changed her mind and that she was against the Union because Larry [Boone] told her a lot of things about the Union that she didn't know." Woody asked Harrison what Boone had told her about the Union and although Harrison apparently responded in an ensuing conversation with Woody, the latter testified that she could not remember the conversa- tion, the words used, or any of the things that Harrison said that Boone had told Harrison about the Union. Rekus also testified about events on April 18, the day after the union meeting. Rekus states that at the company plant, Harrison sat two seats away from Rekus. According to Rekus, Harrison had come back 1 minute late from a break period. The lead agent, Jane Carlson. filled out a company personnel tardiness slip on this incident and after sigmng it, Carlson had also secured, in the spaces provided on the slip or form, the signature of Harrison, as the employee involved, and the signature of lead agent Larry Boone. Rekus states that Harrison had some words with Carlson about being written up for being 1 minute late and returned to her work station in an agitated state. Rekus also stated that Hamson then, after about a minute, left her work station. Rekus does not testify that she observed where Harrison went or with whom, if anyone. Rekus testified that she (Rekus) finished work that day about 4:30 p.m. and she had not seen Harrison return to her work station. However, the next day, Thursday, April 19, Rekus and Harrison had lunch together. Rekus asked Harrison what had happened "yesterday," "where did she go because I didn't see her come back." According to Rekus. Harrison said that she had gone to Lillie Todd's office to discuss the tardiness report that had been written up on April I8 "and that they had also discussed the Union." 24 Rekus states on direct examination that Harrison told Rekus on April 19 that Todd told Harrison on April 18 that "the Union was bad for the Company and that we wouldn't get any benefits until we had the Union out of the Company and that we might possibly lose our jobs." On cross-examina- tion Rekus states that Harrison also told her on this occasion that Todd said that the girls should not be represented by the Teamsters because that union was not familiar with reservation type operations and the contract the Union had first submitted to the Company was a trucking contract. Rekus then conceded that the remark about the employees losing their jobs was Harrison's opinion, expressed to Rekus on April 19, and was not part of what Todd had reportedly said to Harrison.25 Although in appearance and manner as witnesses, Woody and Rekus impressed me favorably, there are some aspects of their testimony regarding events on April 18, 1973, that are not easy to reconcile. Woody sat next to Harrison at work on April 18 and Rekus sat two seats 24 Todd is a supervisor and higher in the hierachy than a lead agent 25 On its face, the evidentiary quality of this type of secondhand 1115 away. Woody testified that about 10:30 a.m. Harrison had some kind of a problem with a customer on the telephone and received criticism from a lead agent therefor. From her work station, Harrison then called lead agent Boone and Boone and Harrison went into the conference room. This was evidently sometime between 10:30 and 11:30 a.m. because when Woody went to lunch about 11:30 a.m., Woody stated that Harrison had not returned to her work station. Since the employees had 30-minute lunch periods, Woody apparently returned about 12. According to Woody, Harrison did not return to her station until about 1:30 or 2 p.m. and Harrison proceeded then to tell Woody that Boone had told her about the Union. There is no mention of any conversation that Harrison had with Todd. Rekus also testified about Harrison on April 18 but says nothing about criticism of Harrison by a lead agent because of treatment of a customer nor does Rekus say anything about Harrison calling Boone and going to the conference room with Boone. Rekus speaks of the reprimand to Harrison because she was 1 minute late in returning from a break period, and states that Harrison then left her work station and was not seen again by Rekus by 4:30 p.m. when Rekus completed her shift. The General Counsel's Exhibit 3, the personnel tardiness report, signed by Harrison, and lead agents Boone and Carlson, shows that on April 18 Harrison left on her break at 1:01 p.m. and returned at 1:17 and was thus I minute beyond her 15- minute time. This time period does not jibe with Woody's account of the period between about 10:30-11 a.m. to 1:30 or 2 p.m. when Woody states she had seen Harrison leave her work station and go to the conference room with Boone and returned at between 1:30 and 2 p.m. and described a conversation with Boone . Rekus, however. apparently saw Harrison at her work station or nearby until about I:20-p.m. when Harrison left, not to return by 4:30 p.m. The next day in response to a question from Rekus as to what happened the day before, Harrison apparently spoke frankly and told her about going to Todd and what Todd had told her. There is no mention of going to Boone or about what Boone said. Possibly the witnesses were in error in fixing the time of incidents; possibly there were two separate incidents and that the Boone conversa- tion was the only one extant when Harrison reported to Woody; but there is some difficulty as to why over lunch on April 19 Harrison said nothing about Boone as well as Todd in describing to Rekus the events of the previous day or why Rekus did not notice Harrison's absence well before the ]-minute break episode and Harrison's return well before 4:30 p.m., according to Woody's testimony. Employee Franklin, a witness called by the General Counsel, testified that the first mention she heard of a petition to get rid of the Union was in "late April after one of the Union meetings ." Franklin states that on the particular day, which she did not otherwise fix as to date, Harrison and Emmons were in the break or lounge area of the plant, just before 1 p.m., when Franklin was preparing to clock in for work. According to Franklin, the two aforementioned girls were talking to some other girls, two of whom Franklin named; Harrison and Emmons said that evidence is apparent since neither Harrison nor Todd testified 1116 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD they had attended the union meeting and "they did not like the way the people [presumably the union representatives] were running the meeting, they were ignorant people and they did not want them as bargaining agent for them [themselves], and they would try to get a petition to kick out the Union." As Franklin went into her work station, employee Joyner was telling employee Seessel of the advantages of a union. Emmons then said that she, Emmons, did not want the Union and she had been sent to a meeting "to monitor" it by one of the lead agents and that "she [Emmons] did not want the Union . . . that the Union people were ignorant and they didn't know how to talk." Emmons and Joyner then argued about their respective sentiments regarding the Union. Later, about 6 p.m., some of Franklin's friends asked her if she had heard about the petition being circulated to get rid of the Union. Franklin said, no. As far as appears Franklin never saw a petition or its circulation. The name of Jean Franklin does not appear on any petition in evidence.26 The remaining evidence submitted by the General Counsel to support complaint allegations that Harrison and Emmons were agents of Respondent and were assisted by Respondent in soliciting signatures for a decertification petition involves the "pot luck" dinner on Good Friday, April 20, 1973. There was also a pot luck dinner on Mother's Day, May 11, 1973. Traditionally. Respondent's employees have had pot luck dinners on days such as Mother's Day, Good Friday, and so forth. These affairs are informal and are launched by two or three employees going to a supervisor and proposing that a pot luck dinner be held on some particular day. With permission granted by the supervisor, all employees are then invited to participate in the pot luck dinner by bringing food of one kind or another. In short, each employee who wishes to participate brings this or that kind of food suitable for the buffet type affair. The food is on tables in the lounge area of the plant and employees partake of the food during their lunch and break periods. Since the employees have a wide range of starting and quitting times the pot luck affair goes on all day. The employees who initiate a particular pot luck dinner by speaking to a supervisor are delegated to more or less preside over the food, dishes, and so forth during the particular dinner. Employee Rekus testified that at the April 20, 1973, pot luck, she observed Harrison and Emmons serving at the pot luck at 11 a.m. and again about 1 p.m. Later in the day, at 3 or 4 p.m. Rekus saw employees other than Harrison or Emmons serving at the pot luck. On the two aforemen- tioned times when Rekus observed Harrison and Emmons at the pot luck, she says that they were putting dishes on or off the table and, in effect, were serving the meal. Neither on these occasions nor at any other time has Rekus ever seen the decertification petition and she testified that she first heard of the petition in the week following April 20 when some of her fellow employees told her there was a petition to decertify the Union. The other employee witness who testified about the petition was Franklin. As far as appeared, Franklin did not see the petition or see it in circulation or otherwise. A day or so after the April 17 union meeting , Franklin states that some other employees told her that a petition to decertify the Union was being circulated. The remaining evidence by the General Counsel regard- ing the petition was through the testimony of Respondent's vice president, Whyte. The latter said that he first heard a rumor about a petition in the latter part of April 1973, but could not recall the source. Whyte states that he thereupon informed company counsel of the rumor. Counsel advised him that there should be no circulation of a petition allowed in working areas. Whyte relayed this advice to his four top supervisors and he assumed that this policy was passed to lower supervisors.27 On May 24, 1973, according to Whyte, Personnel Manager Hargrove told him that Hargrove had received a petition from the employees to decertify the Union with about 116 names thereon. Whyte states that he told Hargrove to verify that the names on the petition were those of active employees in the bargaining unit. Thereaf- ter, according to Whyte, Hargrove told him that he had checked and the petition bore the names of a majority of the said employees. Whyte states that he himself checked the petition to see whether there were noticeable duplica- tions or whether it appeared that one person's handwriting had written more than one name. No one checked the petition signatures with any signatures of employees that Respondent may have had in its possession. Respondent introduced as its exhibit 20 a 14-page computer printout of its payroll register as of May 25, 1973. Such a document is received every 2 weeks at Respondent's Memphis office from its Phoenix office, together with paychecks. The original payroll is kept in the Phoenix office. Since Respondent's Exhibit 20 contains the names of all employees, including supervisors, trainers, and other nonunit persons, as well as employees terminated before May 25, the nonunit names are crossed through by green marking pen lines . There were, according to the aforesaid payroll register, 204, 206, or 210 unit employees on May 25.28 The petition bears 119 signatures of which Ill or 112 names are those of unit employees as of May 25. The petition in evidence is actually composed of 14 sheets of paper, some of which are plain white bond-type paper; one small yellow lined piece of paper; some lined large white sheets; some lined large yellow sheets ; and a small note-type piece of white paper. These pieces of paper have longhand writing on top, that reads, with very slight variation, we, the undersigned employees of American Express do not wish to be represented by Teamsters Local 667. Underneath are signatures. The number of signatures on the different sheets varies from I to 72. On the last named sheet, the first two signatures are those of Barbara Emmons and Jean Harrison. No dates appear on any of the petitions. As we have seen, on May 25, 1973, Weintraub notified 26 As far as appears no one forged Franklin's name on a petition and advice passed to supervision was that the petition could not be circulated in there is no evidence of any other forged names on the petition in evidence the working area on working time. (Resp Exh . 18). 28 The variation depends on the inclusion or exclusion of certain 27 At a latter point, Whyte testified that the advice from counsel and the employees on leaves of absence AMERICAN EXPRESS RESERVATIONS, INC. the Umon that the Company had a good-faith doubt that the Union represents a majority of employees in the unit and recognition was withdrawn. Conclusions The complaint alleges that Respondent negotiated in bad faith and with no intention to entering into a final and binding contract. Then we have the evidence describing the negotiations and the fact that more than 12 months after the Union was certified the parties had not only failed to reach agreement on such major issues as checkoff and arbitration but also had not reached final agreement on a substantial number of other issues. The General Counsel would presumably state that the reason no contract was arrived at after those many months was because the Respondent was engaging in an effort to avoid contractual agreement . But amid all the major and other issues on which the parties had not reached agreement, on May 17, 1973, International Representative Parham, who, in my opinion, clearly was sent or came into the meeting by the Umon as a dens ex machina to break the logjam in the path of contractual agreement , stated that the main problems were checkoff and arbitration.29 Weintraub agreed and said that he felt that, if agreement was reached on these two issues, other matters would present no problem. The thought occurs therefore that the 13 months of bargaining and the fact that no contract had resulted after this period do not equate automatically with the conclusion that Respondent had only been engaged in surface bargaining with no intention of consummating a contract. The negotiations got off to a delayed and relaxed start. Although the Union had been certified on April 17, 1972, the parties did not meet until June 23, 1972, and spent their time on that date in discussing everything but a contract. Near the end of the meeting. Tucker handed Weintraub the National Master Freight Contract and Supplement of the trucking industry and suggested that Weintraub draw up a proposal contract.30 The Union did not submit its initial contract proposal other than the National Freight Contract until August 7, 1972, nearly 4 months after its certification. In the period between April 17, 1972, and May 17, 1973, the parties had 20 bargaining sessions or an average of approximately 1.5 sessions per month. It is not my intention to write a critique of how many times parties meet or should meet in negotiating a contract. It is relevant, however, to observe that while the duration of the bargaining was long by the calendar in months and year, it was relatively short in number and frequency of sessions . The bargaining sessions were arranged by mutual agreement and were mutual accomodations to the fact that the company and the union representatives, Weintraub and Tucker and Hall, respectively, had other duties, work, and interests , which apparently they did not, in any major degree , subordinate to the instant contract negotiations. The foregoing is, by the same token, a factor, in my opinion, why many months elapsed before the parties realized or accepted that they had some very significant 29 It is fairly clear that, since Parham had not participated in the prior bargaining sessions , his source of information as to the issues was Tucker or Tucker and Hall. the union negotiators from the beginning. 1117 differences on which they were each very firm and that consummation of a contract would not be easy. Although there can be, of course, no certainty on such things, it is my opinion that it is at least possible that had 20 meetings occurred between April 17, 1972, and August 17, 1972, a modest average of 5 meetings a month, the parties might have earlier reached the point of hopeful or potential resolution of major differences that they did not reach until about May 17, 1973. Succeeding meetings might have been fruitful. And speculative though the foregoing may be, it is relevant to what did occur, since what did occur, 13 months of negotiations and no agreement, is not simply explained by saying that the Respondent was only going through the appearance of bargaining and had no desire to reach agreement. The General Counsel, in his brief, asserts that Weintraub used his friendship with Union Negotiators Tucker and Hall "to lull them into a false sense of security and thereby delay discussion of the substantive issues ." I would agree that there was a friendly relationship between Weintraub and Hall and Tucker. They had known each other professionally in prior contract negotiations and they had a good personal relationship. Tucker and Hall are experi- enced adult union business agents and I do not believe that Weintraub, unilaterally, lulled them into a false sense of security and thereby delayed discussion of issues. The situation, as I view it, is that the good and friendly relationship between the three negotiators led each side to view the other side as "good guys" and "good guys" were therefore perceived as sitting on each side of the bargaining table. In my opinion, Tucker and Hall believed that there would be little ultimate difficulty in securing from Weintraub the kind of contract the Union wanted, at least as to such major union desiderata as a contract provision for checkoff of dues and probably arbitration. This sanguine view, initially at least, was not without some justification. It was not anything that Weintraub said that gave the Union a basis for its expectations, nor did he "lull" them into false expectations. The fact is, that, as the Union knew, and as Weintraub knew, in all prior contracts that Weintraub, on behalf of various clients, had negotiat- ed with the Union, he had ultimately agreed to some form of checkoff and some form of arbitration. It is my opinion, therefore, that initially and even after negotiations began in the instant case , the Union was confident that ultimately, despite a period of resistance , Weintraub would agree to checkoff and that a contract satisfactory to the Union would be arrived at. There is little doubt in my mind that Weintraub was experienced enough to be generally aware of the foregoing atmosphere but that he hoped that his arguments and his powers of persuasion with his friends on the other side would enable him to negotiate the kind of agreement that he and the Company wanted. Before discussing certain specific aspects of the negotia- tions, it is appropriate to comment briefly on the General Counsel's contention in his brief that, because Weintraub, 30 The Union did not specify what parts or adaptation of the National Freight Contract it had in mind. 1118 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD in his testimony, said that in all his contract negotiations, including the instant negotiations , he regarded certain contract items as chips or cards that were tactically withheld at various stages in order to secure certain other items from the opposing side, this illustrates "Respondent's lack of good faith in bargaining." I do not agree. Although the General Counsel takes umbrage at Weintraub's exposition , it is my opinion that it is the nature of collective bargaining or any other bargaining and negotiating by people of experience, that, according to their respective positions, one party starts high and the other low. If a union is prepared to settle for a 20- or 25-cent increase, it may initially demand 80. The employer, although he may be willing to ultimately agree to 15 or 20 cents, may initially offer 5 cents. They then bargain out their differences. The same is true of other contract items. Initially one party will say, no on a particular subject but will modify its position or agree when , in the course of bargaining, the other party yields on some other item it originally demanded. There is a constant interplay of withholding and giving in the course of bargaining and whether pension clauses, grievance clauses, arbitration clauses, or other clauses are referred to as cards or chips to be tactically withheld or yielded at various points, this is the nature of collective bargaining. And each party is engaged in this process in an effort to arrive at the best attainable con tract from their respective viewpoints. At the July 14, 1972, meeting, before he had received any contract proposal from the Union other than the National Freight Contract, Weintraub told the Union that there would be a basic problem because, as a matter of principle, the Company did not want a checkoff clause . The Union, in effect, said that it considered such a clause important and essential.31 On July 24, the next meeting, the Union said checkoff was essential . Weintraub urged the Union to forego checkoff in the first contract, indicating that, at the next contract, checkoff would be no problem. The Union's response was negative. Weintraub suggested a checkoff clause that would be operative for checkoff authorization cards signed by employees after execution of the contract, or an open end checkoff whereby an employee could revoke her checkoff authorization at any tune. The Union's response was negative. A few days later, Weintraub spoke to Augustine, president of the Union, about Weintraub's two last-mentioned suggestions on checkoff. Augustine's response was negative. In subsequent meetings there was nothing new on the parties' differences regarding checkoff. On November 30, 1972, Weintraub made a strong personalized appeal to Tucker and Hall. He appealed to them as realists , practical men, and as friends, to forego checkoff and arbitration in the initial contract and that aside from these two items the negotiators had or would have no real problems. The Union said that it had to have the checkoff but said that if checkoff was granted it would probably agree to drop arbitration. On December 6 or 7 in speaking with Augustine, Weintraub again made the same strong plea that the Union forego checkoff and arbitration in the first contract . Augustine 's response was that if checkoff was granted, the Union would probably be willing to drop arbitration. The surrounding context of the foregoing includes a private telephone conversation between Tucker and Weintraub on November 28, 1972 . It is uncontroverted that Tucker told Weintraub that Weintraub "knew" that if Weintraub did not agree to checkoff , President Augustine would instruct Tucker not to agree on other contract items "until you agree to checkoff ." On December 6 or 7, Augustine himself told Weintraub that "as long,as you refuse to agree to checkoff, we are not going to negotiate anything else [i .e. they would meet and discuss but would not agree on a variety of other contract items] ." From the foregoing , as well as from Weintraub 's testimony and from the evidence of what transpired at the bargaining sessions, I am satisfied that both sides were using various contract items as tactical means for achieving the contract results they each respectively desired on the major issues. While the two main issues were checkoff and arbitration, the evidence convinces me that the paramount issue was checkoff . The Union had indicated a willingness to forego arbitration in return for checkoff , but it had never offered to forego the latter. There were other issues that were difficult and on which agreement had not been reached, but the parties were in agreement , and I concur , that the logjam was centered on checkoff and arbitration and, in my opinion, in that order. In April and May 1973 the parties had made substantial progress on checkoff . This was principally due to new union proposals to meet Company's objections. The Union agreed to state in the contract that a member could terminate her checkoff authorization upon proper written notice to the Union. By May 17, the only aspect separating the parties was Weintraub's contention that the checkoff authorization form should conform to the contract provision on checkoff revocation. In short, the checkoff authorization card still stated that checkoff was irrevocable for 1 year or for the term of the contract whichever was sooner. At the May 17 meeting, the Union indicated that it would come forward with a checkoff authorization card that would satisfy Weintraub's objection above mentioned. Although no such form was sent to Weintraub between May 17 and 25, the prospect appeared promising by the end of the May 17 meeting that the parties might reach agreement on the checkoff article proposed new authoriza- tion card . In any event, in my opinion , there was no impasse on checkoff at the end of the last meeting which was on May 17. Both parties concurred on a no-strike clause except that the Union wanted an exculpatory clause therein and the Company opposed such a provision. In my opinion, the aforesaid disagreement was serious but whether the Union was being firm on the exculpatory clause to block agreement on the entire no strike clause absent agreement on checkoff and arbitration, or otherwise, I do not know. I also do not know if the Company would have held firm in opposing the exculpatory clause to the point of having the entire no-strike article founder. However , it is my opinion am Details of discussions of checkoff at the various meetings are omitted in this summary , as are discussions of some other subjects. AMERICAN EXPRESS RESERVATIONS, INC. that the parties had not reached an impasse on arbitration by the close of the May 17 meeting. It is not possible to know how Parham's arbitration proposals would have fared when they were put down in black and white, presumably by May 31, the date of the next scheduled meeting . But, on May 17, the Company's response to what Parham was proposing on arbitration was not negative and was at least cautiously optimistic or favorable. In my opinion, an impasse had not been reached on arbitration. It is also my opinion that there was no general impasse and that on items, other than the major items, the parties might well have made progress to the point of agreement once the major checkoff and arbitration were resolved.32 The General Counsel's brief states that "the Union had indicated a willingness to bind itself contractually . . . that it would not engage in strikes . . . . However, the Respondent remained steadfast in its opposition to any form of arbitration." The Supreme Court is then cited to the effect that "the agreement to arbitrate grievance disputes is the quid pro quo for an agreement not to strike."33 Prescinding from the fact that in the instant case the Union's indicated willingness to accept a no-strike clause was a qualified one and involved an exculpatory provision on which no agreement had been reached, I do not believe that it is the law that Union proffer of, or willingness to accept, a no-strike clause legally compels employer agreement to arbitration. Even if parties bargain to impasse, which is not the instant case, on the issue of an employer's insistence on a no-strike clause and a corre- sponding refusal to agree to arbitration, I am not convinced that, as a matter of law, such a position is per se a refusal to bargain. It may be part of a total picture and is appropriately to be considered in evaluating the entire bargaining conduct but I doubt that per se aspect. In any event the cited Supreme Court case is not a case involving the negotiation of a contract or the parties' conduct in bargaining. The case involved a labor contract in which there was a no-strike clause and an arbitration clause . The issue was whether labor contract clauses could be enforced in a Federal court. In using the quoted language about no strike being the quid pro quo for arbitration,34 the Court was simply pointing out that Congress had recognized such contracts as binding and enforceable and went on to say: It seems, therefore, clear to us that Congress adopted a policy which placed sanctions behind agreements to arbitrate grievance disputes . . . rejecting the common- 32 Early in the negotiations both parties had agreed to defer economic issues such as wages until they disposed of noneconomic issues. Since they had serious problems regarding the latter, they never actually reached the point of wage bargauung or bargaining about the existing ment plan which related to wages Moreover, Weintraub had said that wages would be no problem This of course was no great gesture of generosity or a blank check since both parties were aware that there was a Phase III (or iVI) Wage Board that would probably limit wage increases to the area of 5-7 percent Moreover, in a period of 6-8-percent inflation, it would appear unlikely that a Company like Respondent would offer less than a 5-7-percent wage increase although anything is possible Subsequent to its withdrawal of recognition from the Union, the Company granted a 6 9 wage increase but did not grant increases in existing holidays, sick leave, or insurance but did improve the medical plan 99 Texile Workers Union v Lincoln Mills ofAlabama, 353 U S. 448, 455 1119 law against enforcement of executory agreements to arbitrate. It is my opinion that the complaint allegation of refusal to bargain in violation of Section 8(a)(5) and (1) of the Act has not been sustained by the evidence as a whole. I believe both the Company and the Union tried hard and earnestly to reach contractual agreement albeit they bargained hard and each party was endeavoring to secure the contract that it considered essential. With regard to the other aspect of the complaint, the General Counsel alleges that employees Harrison and Emmons were agents of Respondent and solicited employ- ees to sign a decertification petition. It is also alleged that Respondent aided the petition solicitors by allowing the solicitation on working time in working area while denying similar privileges to employees supporting the Union. Harrison and Emmons attended a union meeting on April 17, 1973. In conversation with some other employees just before the start of the meeting, Emmons stated that one of the lead agents, a supervisor whom she never identified, had told her to monitor the meeting. Apparent- ly, a day or so after the meeting, in speaking to some other employees, Emmons made the same statement. Since neither Emmons, Harrison, nor the unnamed lead agent were witnesses , we do not know the context or the circumstances of any conversation between Emmons and a lead agent in which this matter of monitoring the Union meeting came up. We do not know who first brought up the matter of the union meeting or what the lead agent intended and what Emmons understood by the phrase, monitor the meeting. Actually, we have no way of knowing whether the actual word "monitor" was Emmons' word by way of paraphrase or whether the unknown lead agent used that particular word.35 To "monitor" means, most commonly, to check or watch or observe. A connotation of illegality might be to equate monitoring a meeting with surveillance or to say that, in monitoring the meeting, the person was to act as an agent provocateur at the meeting by challenging statements made by those presiding at the meeting or asking provocative questions. But, in view of the fact that Emmons and Harrison said nothing during the meeting and left shortly after it started and made no attempt to induce others to leave, the surveillance and agent provocat- eur aspects are very thin indeed. Since neither by way of background nor complaint allegation does evidence appear that, during the election period of early 1972 and thereafter in 1972-73, Respondent 34 It is probably true that , when parties agree on a contract with a no strike clause and an arbitration clause, they probably considered one clause to he the quid pro quo for the other But there is no Pavlovian law of bargaining that, if a no strike clause is wanted , arbitration must be granted. At least the Lincoln Mills case does not stand for such a proposition. 11 1 have of course been proceeding on the assumption that what a witness states was told to her by Emmons is what Emmons said to the witness. The veracity and accuracy of Emmons is another matter since she was never examined or cross-examined as a witness . Perhaps what Emmons said was the truth or perhaps it was her own idea to enhance her sense of importance to say to other employees that an unnamed lead agent had asked her to monitor the meeting. There is no evidence that Emmons had ever made the statement in the presence of any supervisor or that any employee had reported Emmon's statement to management or that management ratified the statement. 1120 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD engaged in any independent acts of antiunion conduct, proscribed by Section 8(a)(1) of the Act, such as threats, surveillance, interrogation, or assistance to any employees opposed to the Union, it is fair that we consider another possible explanation for what occurred when such an explanation cames no illegal overtones. It admittedly will be speculative but the entire matter of monitoring the meeting at the direction of an unknown lead agent is based on secondary evidence and leaves large gaps in the evidentiary standard of reliable evidence. The record shows that a day or two after the April 17, 1973, union meeting, Emmons and Harrison told some other employees that they had attended the union meeting and they did not like the way the union representatives were running the meeting, that the representatives were ignorant people, and they did not want them as representa- tives and they would try to get a petition to kick the Union out36 In view of the foregoing, it is not implausible that at some date before the union meeting Emmons had a conversation with a lead agent. Perhaps Emmons raised the union, matter or perhaps otherwise. During the conversation, the lead agent may have said that the Union is not the kind of a union suitable for this business; go to the Union and see for yourself what kind of an outfit it; or perhaps the lead agent used the word, monitor in the foregoing context. Emmons and Harrison went to the meeting and the next day or so Emmons told other employees that they had been at the meeting and expressed her views of the Union as above described. The evidence that employee Harrison had a conversation with Supervisor Boone or Todd or both, on April 18, 1973, indicates that Harrison, on her own initiative, asked to see Boone or Todd and went to one or the other, or both, to speak about some criticism she had incurred from another supervisor. In the course of the conversation, the topic of the Union came up. Who initiated this topic does not appear. In the conversation, Todd told Harrison (accord- ing to what Harrison told a witness who testified) that the Union was bad for the Company and detrimental to the employees; that the Teamsters Union was not suitable since it was not familiar with the Company's work and had submitted a trucking contract to the Company. In my opinion, the evidence does not establish that Harrison and Emmons were agents of the Respondent. The evidence does not show that the petition was circulated for signatures on company property or on working time or in the working area; nor is there evidence that anyone, employee or union representative, sought and was denied the right to circulate any kind of a proumon or other type of document. There is no evidence as to who circulated the petition, or where, or that what was said by the circulators. It may be that Emmons and Harrison initiated the petition since the former had expressed an intention to do so and both had become critical of the Union. Also, on one of the petitions, the first two signatures were those of Emmons and Harrison. The evidence, on the whole, in my opinion, 36 Perhaps this asserted disenchantment explains why Emmons and Harrison left the meeting so early 37 The employees, who were predominantly young women, had no previous experience with union representation at Respondent's plant When a majority voted for the Union on April 7, 1972, it was probably their expectation that, in a matter of a few weeks, the Union would secure for does not established Respondent's responsibility for, or illegal assistance to, the petition.37 With respect to Respondent's asserted good-faith doubt of the Union's majority status, the evidence, in my opinion, as described and resolved in the Decision, does not established that the doubt was asserted in a context of illegal antiunion activities 38 It is also my opinion that Respondent had reasonable, objective grounds for doubt- ing the Union's majonty status on May 25, 1973. The petitions to decertify bore apparently valid signatures of a majority of the employees in the unit. No claim has been made in this record that the signatures were forgeries and no proof was offered to that effect. No claim or proof was offered to Respondent that the signatures on the petition were invalid or forged and no counterpetition or other evidence was ever proferred to Respondent that might raise a question as to whether Respondent reasonably believed that the decertification petitions represented the sentiments of a majority of the employees. Neither in law nor in logic is there a requirement that Respondent could only entertain a good faith doubt of the Union's majority, based on the petition, if it checked the signatures on the petition with signatures in its possession. The issue is good- faith doubt, not whether Respondent or the Board or someone else conducted a card check election in which signatures on authorization cards are compared to payroll signatures. Indeed, the Board in its requirement that a Union, if it desires that the Board process a petition for certification, stipulates that the Union must submit at least a 30-percent showing of interest. The Union then submits, customarily, signed authorization cards. The Board, in the absence of allegations of fraud or forgery, then secures from the employer a list of the unit employees on the employer's payroll. The Board next compares the names on the authorization cards with the printed or typed names (not signatures) on the payroll list. If there is at least a 30- percent showing of cards corresponding with the names on the payroll, the Board will process the petition. In short, the Board evidently is satisfied that such a check as I have described affords a reasonable basis for belief on the Board's part that it should spend government time and money in processing the petition because it has a reasonable basis for belief that a Union with at least a 30- percent showing of interest from employees may be able to demonstrate in an election that a majority of the employees desire union representation. The Board has quite clearly accepted the comparison of authorization card signatures with a list of names as a reasonable basis for believing that the signatures on the cards are valid. The instant Respondent checked the signature names on the petition against its printed payroll and was reasonably satisfied that the majority of the signatures (that were also a unit majority) indicated that a majority of the unit employees them a contract with important benefits After 6, 8, 10, months of contract negotiations and no contract, there probably was, as time went on, a degree of restiveness and, in some cases, disenchantment among employees Finally, after a year of unconsummated negotiations, there apparently was fertile soil for a decertification petition. 38 Celanese Corporation ofAmerica, 95 NLRB 646,673 AMERICAN EXPRESS RESERVATIONS, INC. 1121 did not want the Union as representative. This was the ORDER basis for Respondent's good faith doubt of majority.39 The complaint is dismissed in its entirety. 99 There may be some inconsistency in the General Counsel contention circulation and the procurement of signatures from employees and then that Respondent initiated, sponsored , aided, and assisted the petition in its should he suspicious of the authenticity of the signatures. Copy with citationCopy as parenthetical citation